Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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This is actually kind of surprising. I'll ask the obvious question just to get it out of the way, did you release the limit screw far enough?
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I sure did. I did all I could think of. Released the pressure in the shifter released the barrel adjuser re tightened the cable. Someone suggested to make sure the crank is installed properly. (Which it certainly seems) but I'll be trying that when I get home
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This doesn't sound like a 'chain line' problem, strictly speaking... If you disconnect the shift cable, can you push the front derailleur far enough with your hand to reach the big ring when the limit screw is wound out fully? If not, your derailleur might be defective/damaged, or your crank is installed wrong.
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Very nice Bottecchia! This really is my kind of thread!
Let's start with my previous build, a Vitus Plus Carbone 3, which I bought as a frame without fork and seatpost. It was an horibble job 'restoring' because of the strange french stuff needed (like a 23mm seatpost and special Vitus-fork...). It did turn out as i wanted, although i recently sold it. It was a pleasure to ride, but i didn't trusted the old carbon enough to use it for regular cycling.
Now working to turn a '86 Gazelle Champion Mondial (i'm a bit of a chauvinist ) into a all day bike. Pics will follow.
Let's start with my previous build, a Vitus Plus Carbone 3, which I bought as a frame without fork and seatpost. It was an horibble job 'restoring' because of the strange french stuff needed (like a 23mm seatpost and special Vitus-fork...). It did turn out as i wanted, although i recently sold it. It was a pleasure to ride, but i didn't trusted the old carbon enough to use it for regular cycling.
Now working to turn a '86 Gazelle Champion Mondial (i'm a bit of a chauvinist ) into a all day bike. Pics will follow.
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Love the yellow cables, they really "pop".
Photos are great, is that just a very short depth of field or the magic of photoshop.
Photos are great, is that just a very short depth of field or the magic of photoshop.
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I didn't want logo's, but missed some color. That's why I decided to bring the yellow that's normaly in the logo's back with the cables.
This is my '86 Gazelle Champion Mondial AB 531 two months ago:
Then with a full 7-speed RSX-group (and bad cable routing...). The crank is replaced with a triple RX100 (which I polished this morning), the frontderailleur with a tripple RSX, the rear derailleur with a 7700, the brakes with 6600. Now waiting for new wheels (Rose built with 36 spokes and 105 hubs) to finish it. The idea is to convert it to 9 or 10 speed later on. The new wheels are compatible and so is the rear derailleur. And if I have saved enough, I'd like to repaint it in Cinelli Laser Azzuro with the same logo's but then in black (the original paint is a bit rough after 30 years).
I'm in love with the handlebar:
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Very nice Bottecchia! This really is my kind of thread!
Let's start with my previous build, a Vitus Plus Carbone 3, which I bought as a frame without fork and seatpost. It was an horibble job 'restoring' because of the strange french stuff needed (like a 23mm seatpost and special Vitus-fork...). It did turn out as i wanted, although i recently sold it. It was a pleasure to ride, but i didn't trusted the old carbon enough to use it for regular cycling.
Let's start with my previous build, a Vitus Plus Carbone 3, which I bought as a frame without fork and seatpost. It was an horibble job 'restoring' because of the strange french stuff needed (like a 23mm seatpost and special Vitus-fork...). It did turn out as i wanted, although i recently sold it. It was a pleasure to ride, but i didn't trusted the old carbon enough to use it for regular cycling.
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Yes, like every AB. It's a bit confusing though, as there are the A-, AA- AB-, AA-Specials and AA-Supers. It's the A- which has eyelets for fenders and a bigger clearance between the wheel and the seattube (is that the right name in English?). The AA is the model for criteriums, with a small wheelbase. The AA-Super has a dent in the seattube so the wheelbase is even shorter. The AB is right in between and has a little longer wheelbase although not as long as the A. The Special at last, has internal cable routing for the rearbrake. Strangely, my cycling mate has a Special from around 95-96 in the same framesize, so apparently an AA frame, but the wheelbase is the same as my AB...
It's a bit of a repost from the Dutch Invasion thread, but this is the Gazelle right now. On the first pictures, it was mainly consumables replaced + new stem, now it's almost complete (for now).
-1985 Gazelle Champion Mondial AB 531c 60cm
-RSX 7-speed STI's and triple front derailleur
-RX100 triple crankset (polished)
-Dura-Ace 7700 rear derailleur
-Ultegra 6600 brakes
-Rose-built wheels with Xtreme Airline 4 rims, DT spokes and 105 5800 hubs (with three spacers for 7-speed casette)
-Dura-Ace PD-7401 pedals
-Chinese saddle that suits me well =)
I've just changed the 52 chainring for a more classic looking 53, but i've got to test it to see if that works properly. The front derailleur is already at the highest point and is only mm's away from the teeth. The right STI wasn't functioning well, as I had to press the small lever sometimes for over 5 times to shift to a smaller cog. I found out that it's due to old grease Shimano used and flushing it with penetrating oil and afterwards greasing it with a modern grease, it works like a charm =). The bike however is upgraded in such a way (9-speed RD and up to 11-speed wheels) that upgrading to 9 or 10 speed is relatively easy.
It's a bit of a repost from the Dutch Invasion thread, but this is the Gazelle right now. On the first pictures, it was mainly consumables replaced + new stem, now it's almost complete (for now).
-1985 Gazelle Champion Mondial AB 531c 60cm
-RSX 7-speed STI's and triple front derailleur
-RX100 triple crankset (polished)
-Dura-Ace 7700 rear derailleur
-Ultegra 6600 brakes
-Rose-built wheels with Xtreme Airline 4 rims, DT spokes and 105 5800 hubs (with three spacers for 7-speed casette)
-Dura-Ace PD-7401 pedals
-Chinese saddle that suits me well =)
I've just changed the 52 chainring for a more classic looking 53, but i've got to test it to see if that works properly. The front derailleur is already at the highest point and is only mm's away from the teeth. The right STI wasn't functioning well, as I had to press the small lever sometimes for over 5 times to shift to a smaller cog. I found out that it's due to old grease Shimano used and flushing it with penetrating oil and afterwards greasing it with a modern grease, it works like a charm =). The bike however is upgraded in such a way (9-speed RD and up to 11-speed wheels) that upgrading to 9 or 10 speed is relatively easy.
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^^ Beauty! Are those headtube cable guides part of the lower headset cup? A washer?
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I thought those things were common, as my aluminium bike had one as well, but I can't find any pictures of it online. It's a ring with two cable guides which is fitted between the cup of the headset and the steer tube. So you have to remove the headset to get that thing out of the way.
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That is the first time I have ever seen brifters with toeclips.
This thread reminds me of classic car restorers and collectors, who fall into three broad and over-generalized categories:
1) Keep everything as original as absolutely possible, .......................... possibly even one with positive ground, which could get interesting (in the worst sense of the word) during a jump start.
This thread reminds me of classic car restorers and collectors, who fall into three broad and over-generalized categories:
1) Keep everything as original as absolutely possible, .......................... possibly even one with positive ground, which could get interesting (in the worst sense of the word) during a jump start.
Owned the MM for 30+ years, only an idiot would do that. Besides, there's a crank in the boot for that.
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Inseam is right around 38.25".
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Replaced the 8 speed drive train, on my Concorde , with 11 speed Athena. Wheels are Mavic open pro rims and Chorus hubs.
Haven't had time to properly ride it yet. Only a roll out from the shed, in the dark, to check the shifting and breaking. It was decent and only fine tuning remains. Hopefully I'll have time before dark this afternoon to do a few km's.
Haven't had time to properly ride it yet. Only a roll out from the shed, in the dark, to check the shifting and breaking. It was decent and only fine tuning remains. Hopefully I'll have time before dark this afternoon to do a few km's.
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I opted to look for a less offensive set of silver rims (since the black did not set well with me either). So here is the Bottecchia in what I think is its final iteration for some time:
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NICE! I love those old Botteccias. I just upgraded my brakes to 5700 to match the rest of the drivetrain. The pedals will be the last upgrade before I call it done. The guys at the bike shop asked me to bring it in when I picked up the brakes, and a long conversation about upgrading old steel frames ensued.
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Looks good either way but I agree with the silver rims. However... it would look better in my garage me thinks... lol
Nice bike, nicely done. What component group is on it?
Nice bike, nicely done. What component group is on it?