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Cl904 08-15-18 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by squirtdad (Post 20508287)
That is really clean.....nice build

thanks! I can only take credit for the saddle and tires tho... Before I got this I would have never put brifters on a bike, but I’m getting used to them and starting to like them. Still unsure about the crabon fork, but a Columbus steel replacement would probably be double what I have in the bike now, so I’m sticking with what I’ve got.

Whit51 08-15-18 06:32 PM

Sholow and C1904, those are some beautiful builds that transcend the original bikes



EnzoRWD 08-16-18 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Lamplight (Post 20504266)
Those are mid 2000s (?) Campy Centaur brothers.

Yep, Centaur "Century Grey"

ptempel 08-16-18 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 20500187)
They are completely fug. There's no way they look appropriate on any vintage bike. On modern CF? Sure, because there everything is fug, and the black 5800 fits that theme. It all ties together nicely, in a weird, nightmarish, Alien-Vs-Predator, modern sic-fi industrial chic dynamic.

But on a vintage steel frame; it's all just ugly scabs and black eyes. :(

Are the 5800 cranks anodized black on aluminum? If so, then you could spray oven cleaner on it, clean and then polish the aluminum. Would be a lot of work but might make the cranks look cool again. I recall doing that way back when on a pair of Araya BMX rims in high school. :)

HarborBandS 08-16-18 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by ptempel (Post 20509605)
Are the 5800 cranks anodized black on aluminum? If so, then you could spray oven cleaner on it, clean and then polish the aluminum. Would be a lot of work but might make the cranks look cool again. I recall doing that way back when on a pair of Araya BMX rims in high school. :)

Or, they do sell a silver version. :)

I picked up a silver 105 5800 groupset on clearance recently (new 105 r7000 groupo has been released), and will post results of build when complete.

The silver 5800 crank still has that bulk, and the color isn’t as good as vintage polished components, but it should perform very, very nicely.

ptempel 08-16-18 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by HarborBandS (Post 20509718)


Or, they do sell a silver version. :)

I picked up a silver 105 5800 groupset on clearance recently (new 105 r7000 groupo has been released), and will post results of build when complete.

The silver 5800 crank still has that bulk, and the color isn’t as good as vintage polished components, but it should perform very, very nicely.

D'oh! Forgot that Shimano still sells the silver version of the cranks. So used to seeing them in black that I guess it didn't exist. :D

http://www.wigglestatic.com/product-...=430&h=430&a=7

Post up a pic of your rebuild when its complete.

squirtdad 08-16-18 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by HarborBandS (Post 20509718)


Or, they do sell a silver version. :)

I picked up a silver 105 5800 groupset on clearance recently (new 105 r7000 groupo has been released), and will post results of build when complete.

The silver 5800 crank still has that bulk, and the color isn’t as good as vintage polished components, but it should perform very, very nicely.

i can confirm that the 105 5800 group works really well....

noglider 08-16-18 11:19 AM

[MENTION=488583]Cl904[/MENTION], what frame is that? I really like it.

Cl904 08-16-18 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 20509836)
[MENTION=488583]Cl904[/MENTION], what frame is that? I really like it.

it’s a Miele of some sort... I’m assuming a high end one because of the pantograph seat stays and Columbus dropouts without eyelets. No decals, repainted I think, and a replacement fork will probably keep it a mystery. One of these days I’ll pull the bottom bracket (Italian B.B. shell) and check for ridges to see if it is slx.

rowebr 08-16-18 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Cl904 (Post 20507484)
Here’s mine... tho it looks like the conversation itself is old enough to be vintage. 80s Columbus framed Miele with 8 speed mirage ergos https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...321c21295.jpeg

Looks fantastic! Sorry to potentially bring bad news, but...is that a Modolo stem?

If yes, here is an old thread to help you identify the recalled versions:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-straight.html

Cl904 08-16-18 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by rowebr (Post 20510192)
Looks fantastic! Sorry to potentially bring bad news, but...is that a Modolo stem?

If yes, here is an old thread to help you identify the recalled versions:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-straight.html

good eye... it is an x-tenos stem. From the research I’ve done it doesn’t seem to be one of the recalled ones. It is pretty beefy around the binder bolt hole.

Cl904 08-16-18 02:41 PM

Finding a bike with a pivo stem years ago taught me about death stems and other common component failure...

dunrobin 08-16-18 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Cl904 (Post 20507484)
Here’s mine... tho it looks like the conversation itself is old enough to be vintage. 80s Columbus framed Miele with 8 speed mirage ergos https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...321c21295.jpeg

It is a really nice build on a classic miele. Sounds like a higher end frame, mine also has pantographing on the stays, as well as large diamond cutouts on the lugs. I'm pretty sure mines an equipe..it came with an sl sticker. The later ones came with slx. I'm also not sure of my wound up carbon fork...enjoy!

Cl904 08-16-18 04:18 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...09fc48edd.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...33ad9f0d6.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3596b185a.jpeg

And the stem that made me dig into part failures...

Originally Posted by rowebr (Post 20510192)
Looks fantastic! Sorry to potentially bring bad news, but...is that a Modolo stem?

If yes, here is an old thread to help you identify the recalled versions:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-straight.html

pretty sure this is a good one

rowebr 08-16-18 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Cl904 (Post 20510210)

good eye... it is an x-tenos stem. From the research I’ve done it doesn’t seem to be one of the recalled ones. It is pretty beefy around the binder bolt hole.

Awesome, that's a relief! The stem works so well on your Miele.

Cl904 08-17-18 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by rowebr (Post 20510778)
Awesome, that's a relief! The stem works so well on your Miele.

I wish I could take credit... if I was building from scratch I’d probably have a Cinelli or Nitto on there... Modolo isn’t really one I think of. Luckily whoever built this and donated it to the thrift store was smarter than me.

showlow 08-17-18 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Timo 2.0 (Post 20345674)
My 1993 Merlin Extralight with Ergopower...

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram...19925504_n.jpg

beautiful bike.

botty kayer 08-20-18 11:23 AM

Here's my two latest, 1989 Bottecchia Equipe running 20 speed Chorus, shod with regular wheels, 32h Campag Chorus and with shiny Sunday best Shamals.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2335808d0c.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...940c9943fd.jpg
And this week I finished refitting my Gilco tubed Columbus SL Denti. New front deailleur, seat post, tyres, cable outers and inners.. Also running 20 speed Campagnolo with a semi compact 52/36 with 32/28h Campag Chorus wheels as its regular daily wheels, and also shown here with some Shamal tubulars fitted with Vittoria Open Pave's, cos they look cool:)
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...240bb848be.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eb720ca9a9.jpg

2_be_us 08-23-18 08:13 AM

Nice builds! The Bottecchia frame is a beauty! I'm a sucker for chrome lugs.

shuru421 08-23-18 09:13 AM

More pics of that Gilco Denti por favor! ^

Also, youre running a carbon fork? No original fork in hand?

shuru421 08-23-18 09:15 AM

Seeing all of these amazing bikes makes me want to post some pics of my retro sti here as well..

Just not quite finished with my grail bike..a Fuso..maybe a sneak peek? Or maybe just the complete bike in a few weeks.

Ill post a couple of mines for now..

botty kayer 08-24-18 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by shuru421 (Post 20523054)
More pics of that Gilco Denti por favor! ^

Also, youre running a carbon fork? No original fork in hand?

Here you go [MENTION=202594]shu[/MENTION]ru just for you. Despite being the least shiny of my bikes it does still have some lovely details, and the tubing on the frame is a wonder of different shapes. The head tube is the only completely round tube on the bike and features the company ladybird logo. The top tube, down tube and seat tube are all teardrop shaped, though the seat tube starts off round at the top, obviously to accommodate a regular round seat post, and tapers into a teardrop lower down. I've got it running 20 speed Camapag, Record shifters withRecord skeleton brakes
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e69b59b144.jpg
It has some nice lugs, featuring more ladybirds.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ba792830a0.jpg
Nice arrow point type lugs at the bottom bracket
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...53d1927f13.jpg
The seat post cluster features what I think are called 'shot in' or 'fastback' seatstays. And of course feature more ladybirds. Its hard to tell from the photos but the seat stays are also wonderfully shaped, the tubing narrows at each end but is more bulbous in the middle, like Popeye's forearms but not so extreme:)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2a77407ce2.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e1abe35701.jpg
Notice also that the rear brake cable routing, which is through the top tube, enters and exits the frame right at the ends of the top tube, quite different to the other bikes I have with internal top tube routing. I do find this very pleasing on the eye as it makes the rear cabling almost invisible on drive side photos, very neat....its like they've thought of everything:)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...86c6f1a189.jpg
And as I am running modern kit and carbon parts I thought I'd have a modern fork with an aheadset. I do still have the original fork, featuring, yes you guessed it, more ladybirds, this time on the fork crown, if I ever want to revert back to a more traditional look.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...502bf9898c.jpg
Phrases like magic carpet ride are banded around often in cycling, but with 25c tyres and the Columbus SL tubing, this really is the smoothest riding and plush feeling of all my 8 bikes. I love it and as it was my first road bike I am hopelessly sentimentally attached to it, and will never sell it, its worth much more to me than the sum of its parts.

noodle soup 08-24-18 10:32 AM

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/...ba7a1a92_o.jpg

2_be_us 08-24-18 01:21 PM

Beautiful! What kind of bottle holders are those, if I may ask?

noodle soup 08-24-18 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by 2_be_us (Post 20525601)
Beautiful! What kind of bottle holders are those, if I may ask?

those are from Velo Orange.

They are nice, but I swapped them for some from Performance because these ones contacted each other at the lowest point.

They work well on other bikes, but they were too long for this frame.


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