Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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But logic isn't everything. Wider tires are heavier, which is why there is a limit to how wide a tire is practical.
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That said, have you seen the rolling resistance test for Schwalbe's Big One?
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Thanks for the compliments on the build.
I actually didn't get them to fit... The front is ok, forks are wide enough for the 35 tires, but the rear is very narrow and when climbing/accelerating, it touches the stays. Will have to change to 33 or less, I guess.
I actually didn't get them to fit... The front is ok, forks are wide enough for the 35 tires, but the rear is very narrow and when climbing/accelerating, it touches the stays. Will have to change to 33 or less, I guess.
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Right. Wider tires are heavier.
...and all things arent equal. Thats a pretty key disclaimer that all too often just doesnt get mentioned.
Tire pressure isnt going to be the same, therefore all things arent equal.
I am all on board the wider tire train, but I dont kid myself that 'wider is faster' is accurate. It can be in some cases, but its hardly a statement that should be made without some important disclaimers in the same sentence.
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...which is also totally inaccurate and misleading.
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Wide tires
Old bike,
modern kit,
wide tires;
you get in a pace line and you're gonna crush some fragile roadie fanboy ego....
I LIKE IT.
modern kit,
wide tires;
you get in a pace line and you're gonna crush some fragile roadie fanboy ego....
I LIKE IT.
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Battaglin franken bike
Hi guys, been a long time coming, had asome issues with the BB needed to be chased, can thank the guys down at THE BICYCLE STAND in Long Beach CA for their assistance, as well as THE BICYCLE TREE community bike workshop in Santa Ana CA for inspiration.
Ended up going with a Campy Athena 11 sp group looks sweet, thinking of painting or chroming the fork, however for now the cream and purple splatter will live on.
Ended up going with a Campy Athena 11 sp group looks sweet, thinking of painting or chroming the fork, however for now the cream and purple splatter will live on.
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Very nice Battaglin
Ive got to pay a visit to The Bicycle Stand very soon. Best
place in Long Beach for vintage bicycles.
Ive got to pay a visit to The Bicycle Stand very soon. Best
place in Long Beach for vintage bicycles.
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Hi guys, been a long time coming, had asome issues with the BB needed to be chased, can thank the guys down at THE BICYCLE STAND in Long Beach CA for their assistance, as well as THE BICYCLE TREE community bike workshop in Santa Ana CA for inspiration.
Ended up going with a Campy Athena 11 sp group looks sweet, thinking of painting or chroming the fork, however for now the cream and purple splatter will live on.
Ended up going with a Campy Athena 11 sp group looks sweet, thinking of painting or chroming the fork, however for now the cream and purple splatter will live on.
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Is that a battaglin fork? If not, I'm sure there are a number of us that have generic chrome forks of various sizes that you could probably pry from us for a lot cheaper than re-chroming that fork. I have a spare Tange fork, but it's got a really tall steerer and 23 mm tires on a wide rim are pushing it for fit (why I'm not using it). Probably, others in a similar boat with a fork that'd fit your frame.
That looks like a fork from a '92 Schwinn Paramount Series 5 PDG (aka Purple Slime).
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Is that a battaglin fork? If not, I'm sure there are a number of us that have generic chrome forks of various sizes that you could probably pry from us for a lot cheaper than re-chroming that fork. I have a spare Tange fork, but it's got a really tall steerer and 23 mm tires on a wide rim are pushing it for fit (why I'm not using it). Probably, others in a similar boat with a fork that'd fit your frame.
It is not a Battaglin Fork, it is indeed a Paramount TANGE fork, was salvaged from the fork bin at The Bicycle Tree while I was collecting pieces. I am more than open to getting a chrome fork off anyone who is will to part with one, looks like chroming would be over $100. Also note, Battaglin forks are available for USD$450 from Mr Battaglin himself up in Italy, was a bit steep for me, even though he said it includes the shipping..
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Those Tange Paramount forks were nice. The guy at Tange's NAHBS booth said they were all Prestige because it was just easier to make them that way.
The Series 5 (like the one shown) was the most striking of the Series (IMO). And it looks like the paint really was unique to each bike.
The Series 5 (like the one shown) was the most striking of the Series (IMO). And it looks like the paint really was unique to each bike.
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I love all the wacky paint schemes of this era, especially on high end bikes. Looks great!
So, my 1984 Miyata 610 is making the rounds here as I have completed, gone on a few test rides, and then took it for a longer trip today. The bike is fantastic and I really like the way it looks. What started out as "let's make a modernized touring bike into a winter/rain bike with cantis and ample fender clearance, with as much Dura-Ace as I can shrewdly locate" turned into "ok, there's my 7900 DA shifters that I wanted to use and most everything else is bought." Wheels, tires, STIs, pedals, drop bars, stem, and seat post were original. Brakes are Deore LX (M560), RD is a 9-speed XT (M772 w/ GS cage) bought new, FSA (more) Energy cranks running 36/50T rings, 5700-era Shimano 105 front derailleur, and an 11-36T 10-speed cassette. Frame is powder coated and re-decal'ed as the original blue paint and decals were toast. So yeah, we'll going touring and winter commuting...quickly.
So, my 1984 Miyata 610 is making the rounds here as I have completed, gone on a few test rides, and then took it for a longer trip today. The bike is fantastic and I really like the way it looks. What started out as "let's make a modernized touring bike into a winter/rain bike with cantis and ample fender clearance, with as much Dura-Ace as I can shrewdly locate" turned into "ok, there's my 7900 DA shifters that I wanted to use and most everything else is bought." Wheels, tires, STIs, pedals, drop bars, stem, and seat post were original. Brakes are Deore LX (M560), RD is a 9-speed XT (M772 w/ GS cage) bought new, FSA (more) Energy cranks running 36/50T rings, 5700-era Shimano 105 front derailleur, and an 11-36T 10-speed cassette. Frame is powder coated and re-decal'ed as the original blue paint and decals were toast. So yeah, we'll going touring and winter commuting...quickly.
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Looking good except for the wheel decals. Those have got to go!
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I agree, quiet down the wheels to match the rest of the build and it's pretty dang good looking.
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I've tried picking off one corner (a while ago), and got a few mm square section. Thick decals that are on pretty well. And this wheel not being brand new, there will be a paint intensity difference. I don't want that. I have a newer set of these, with much more subdued graphics (on my Marinoni). Maybe I'll switch one day. I understand where you all are coming from, and you can rest assured that I am not the Desecrator of Revered Steel as shown by all my other bikes. For now though, this Miyata and I are on a mission from God. There is no penguin that has sent me, but I am sent on the penguin-colored bicycle to show all those newfangled steel and aluminum steeds what's what.
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