The "Before And After" Thread
10-13-16, 02:03 PM
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@tommyblair22, we'd love to know technical details about your renovation.
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Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
10-13-16, 02:14 PM
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@mississippimud, that's a nice Fuso! 
10-13-16, 02:36 PM
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@mississippimud, that's a nice Fuso!
10-14-16, 04:27 PM
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@tommyblair22, we'd love to know technical details about your renovation.
Sure thing!
It was a challenge basically every step of the way since this model was not intended to have multiple gears, rear brakes etc. I worked with Gilbert of North Road Bicycles as he specializes in Moultons. Here is what we did:
Straightened the forks
Riveted two cable guides to non-drive side of frame. I will need to design a new front rack as mine is incompatible now
I wanted to maintain seperability, so I used Moulton specific cable couplers . Breaks down in about a minute.
Swapped the axle from a takeoff Bromoton front wheel with spacers. I will move to a dynohub in the future
Built a rear wheel with a Velocity Aero heat and Sturmey Archer XRF8 W hub
Instead of the twist shifter, I used a JTEK bar end shifter specific to the hub
Added alloy drop bars, stem, seatpost
To get the seatpost to sit properly I had to ream the seat tube .2mm as it had ovalized for some reason.
I used Tektro 559 Brake calipers with Origin8 levers.
Obligatory Brooks saddle and brass bell
In the future I'd like to sort out a better bottle cage situation. Recommendations welcome if you have any.
Rides like a new bike, suspension still very firm. Wasn't cheap, but well worth it for me.
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10-17-16, 12:18 PM
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1999 Bianchi Volpe
I was looking to add a "go fast" drop bar commuter to my stable and found this 1999 Bianchi Volpe on craigslist. Was in pretty lousy condition, covered in crud, shifters frozen. I probably overpaid a little considering it's condition, but I was hopeful that I could get it up and running without spending too much.
crud covered:
IMG_2142.jpg
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Beginning to strip down:
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Cleaned and stripped, new BB installed.
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Ready to ride:
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Took it out for a 30mi ride with a buddy yesterday and it made its maiden commute today. Enjoying it so far. I am experiencing a little hand numbness, which was never usually a problem for me. My weight distribution doesn't feel different than my other bikes.
Big thanks to the folks here and in mechanic's forum for all the free advice that helped me get this all sorted.
crud covered:
IMG_2142.jpg
IMG_2141.jpg
Beginning to strip down:
IMG_2148.jpg
Cleaned and stripped, new BB installed.
IMG_2153.jpg
Ready to ride:
IMG_2294.jpg
Took it out for a 30mi ride with a buddy yesterday and it made its maiden commute today. Enjoying it so far. I am experiencing a little hand numbness, which was never usually a problem for me. My weight distribution doesn't feel different than my other bikes.
Big thanks to the folks here and in mechanic's forum for all the free advice that helped me get this all sorted.
10-28-16, 10:17 PM
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I got my bargain basement Rossin sorted out with some Cinelli bars and stem and a nice wheelset, I am really digging it.
The wheels are Campy 50th anniversary hubs laced to H + Son TB14s, crazy-smooth with some Veloflex Master 25s on there----I only paid $50 for the hubs/ and skewers, I thought it was going to be a scam of some kind but they arrived nicely packed and in great shape.
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After:
The wheels are Campy 50th anniversary hubs laced to H + Son TB14s, crazy-smooth with some Veloflex Master 25s on there----I only paid $50 for the hubs/ and skewers, I thought it was going to be a scam of some kind but they arrived nicely packed and in great shape.
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10-29-16, 07:24 AM
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real far gone
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TdF as found:
As it is now:
As it is now:
10-29-16, 09:55 AM
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I really like the look...Very crisp and clean looking. The wheelset and stem are a huge improvement.
I got my bargain basement Rossin sorted out with some Cinelli bars and stem and a nice wheelset, I am really digging it.
The wheels are Campy 50th anniversary hubs laced to H + Son TB14s, crazy-smooth with some Veloflex Master 25s on there----I only paid $50 for the hubs/ and skewers, I thought it was going to be a scam of some kind but they arrived nicely packed and in great shape.
Before:
After:
The wheels are Campy 50th anniversary hubs laced to H + Son TB14s, crazy-smooth with some Veloflex Master 25s on there----I only paid $50 for the hubs/ and skewers, I thought it was going to be a scam of some kind but they arrived nicely packed and in great shape.
Before:
After:
10-30-16, 10:11 AM
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tantum vehi
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That Rossin looks happier now.
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11-02-16, 01:19 PM
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Looking for a "bad weather" bike but not wanting to spend very much. I found this at a local rummage sale for $40, I wanted something to fit wider tires but I'm not complaining. I had all the consumables on hand, except a better pair of brake levers, so another $23.00. Waiting on the levers to get it finished.
11-02-16, 04:30 PM
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Seriously!?!? $40!?!? Do you hold some sort of sway over people that makes them hand their bikes over to you for paltry sums of cash?!?!
Looking for a "bad weather" bike but not wanting to spend very much. I found this at a local rummage sale for $40, I wanted something to fit wider tires but I'm not complaining. I had all the consumables on hand, except a better pair of brake levers, so another $23.00. Waiting on the levers to get it finished.
12-19-16, 01:21 PM
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A couple of recent ones I completed:
1987 Cilo Sport 105 upgraded to Ultegra STI:
4130 steel Raleigh upgraded to Sora STI Triple:
1987 Cilo Sport 105 upgraded to Ultegra STI:
4130 steel Raleigh upgraded to Sora STI Triple:
12-19-16, 07:21 PM
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12-19-16, 08:42 PM
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As a fellow TdF owner and French aficionado, I can't believe I missed this before/after. @HamboneSlim - it is very impressive! I particularly like the blue accents on the crankset, fluted seat post, cabling, clips, bar tape and tires. Well done!!
12-19-16, 10:16 PM
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Thanks guys. I built the TdF this summer, and plan to start putting some miles on it next year.
12-20-16, 04:09 AM
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86 Trek 500 Ironman
This was a rescue from a trash pile...
After picture is fresh from Joe Bell....at the time the upcharge for the fade paint was bit too pricey I went single color and spent the upcharge on highlighting the lugs.
Presently being built up with 105 STI...
After picture is fresh from Joe Bell....at the time the upcharge for the fade paint was bit too pricey I went single color and spent the upcharge on highlighting the lugs.
Presently being built up with 105 STI...
Last edited by icedog; 12-20-16 at 06:13 PM. Reason: Of course I mean 105...
12-20-16, 04:47 PM
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On a different project, not done with the actual bike yet, but the side-by-side before and after shot of the rims shows what improvement can be made with a little Mothers Metal Polish, a bit of water and a worn out old green (now black) scotchbrite pad. Oh, and 15 minutes of elbow grease.
Oddly enough, all the rusty spokes still turned nicely in their nipples and it was easy to get these things nice and true. I was just going to try and save just the rims for future wheel building, but I think I'll keep the wheels whole for now, and put them on a bike I'm refurbing for an employee. I'll tell him to watch and listen for spokes breaking; maybe give me a chance to show him how to replace spokes.
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12-20-16, 06:14 PM
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I'm no Joe Bell, but maybe I'll try copying the nice infill he did on your sweet Trekky lug details. I have a great candidate for that, my most recent build, a 1989 Trek 400 (more pics on the link).
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On a different project, not done with the actual bike yet, but the side-by-side before and after shot of the rims shows what improvement can be made with a little Mothers Metal Polish, a bit of water and a worn out old green (now black) scotchbrite pad. Oh, and 15 minutes of elbow grease.
Oddly enough, all the rusty spokes still turned nicely in their nipples and it was easy to get these things nice and true. I was just going to try and save just the rims for future wheel building, but I think I'll keep the wheels whole for now, and put them on a bike I'm refurbing for an employee. I'll tell him to watch and listen for spokes breaking; maybe give me a chance to show him how to replace spokes.
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On a different project, not done with the actual bike yet, but the side-by-side before and after shot of the rims shows what improvement can be made with a little Mothers Metal Polish, a bit of water and a worn out old green (now black) scotchbrite pad. Oh, and 15 minutes of elbow grease.
Oddly enough, all the rusty spokes still turned nicely in their nipples and it was easy to get these things nice and true. I was just going to try and save just the rims for future wheel building, but I think I'll keep the wheels whole for now, and put them on a bike I'm refurbing for an employee. I'll tell him to watch and listen for spokes breaking; maybe give me a chance to show him how to replace spokes.
