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ozneddy 01-03-08 04:57 AM

Hey , its another bike saved (lets face it guys what can you get for 10bucks these days ?)

solveg 01-03-08 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by bigbossman (Post 5906452)
It is a small size, and will make a good campus bike for a lucky coed.


Originally Posted by divineAndbright (Post 5906193)
If you intend to flip it im sure some chick will fancy it!

OK, I gotta ask, and I ask this sincerely... what makes this bike especially appealing to women? Is it just the size, or is it the color scheme or something else?

T-Mar 01-03-08 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by stronglight (Post 5907602)
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...an/Fiamme3.gif

If that Fiamme yellow label decal is original on the rim it would be rather uncommon. During the 1960s-70s I'd only seen that on their lightest weight tubular (sew-up) racing rims. Similar red label rims were used on the more common and less costly basic training rims. But, on a 27" clincher rim? - yeah, that's odd... maybe not very valuable, but different.

Fiamme did make more yellow label clincher rims during the 1980s which had simple square labels, but those rims also had eyelets and were actually pretty nice and quite strong. The one in the photo is odd because it appears to be a lower tier 27" clincher, has no eyelets, and is drilled for Schrader valves rather than Presta (but, I suppose the latter could have been a consumer modification, or simply made for the US market). ..

That's the Fiamme model 71. They were quite common in my area and lots of riders used the 28" (622mm bead seat diameter) version on their training wheels. This avoided the cost or hassle of tubular flats on our poor roads and allowed us to interchange with our tubular race wheels without adjusting the brake pad height.

bigbossman 01-03-08 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by solveg (Post 5914360)
OK, I gotta ask, and I ask this sincerely... what makes this bike especially appealing to women? Is it just the size, or is it the color scheme or something else?

With the ladies, size matters. :D

Seriously, that's pretty much it. Small, inexpensive road bikes are in pretty high demand if you're in an urban area or near a university. The women seem to prefer men's bikes, but the more petite women cannot ride one unless it is on the smaller end of the scale.

So, if this frame cleans up nicely and can be converted to, say, a generic Suntour group, it will once again have value and be destined to rejoin the workforce. :)

Mhendricks 01-03-08 11:05 AM

That Huret RD might be worth some money to the Japanese Collectors. Can't tell the model though.

dbakl 01-03-08 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 5914877)
That's the Fiamme model 71. They were quite common in my area and lots of riders used the 28" (622mm bead seat diameter) version on their training wheels. This avoided the cost or hassle of tubular flats on our poor roads and allowed us to interchange with our tubular race wheels without adjusting the brake pad height.

Yes, that Fiamme "horse" decal was for the non-ferreled clinchers. The yellow tubular was the "knights head" design. I have a pair of those Fiamme clinchers here I may build up.

dbakl 01-03-08 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Mhendricks (Post 5915524)
That Huret RD might be worth some money to the Japanese Collectors. Can't tell the model though.

I believe that is a "Luxe" rear. Kinda the basic Huret design cleaned up, chromed and with the cover removed. I think they are somewhat rare.

bigbossman 01-03-08 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by dbakl (Post 5915581)
I believe that is a "Luxe" rear. Kinda the basic Huret design cleaned up, chromed and with the cover removed. I think they are somewhat rare.

Hmmm.... this $10 clunker is getting more interesting all the time. Can't wait to actually get my hands on it to see what's what.

Anyone have a guess as to whether the BB will be standard Italian threading or not? Just wondering, cuz everything else is French......

East Hill 01-03-08 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by solveg (Post 5914360)
OK, I gotta ask, and I ask this sincerely... what makes this bike especially appealing to women? Is it just the size, or is it the color scheme or something else?

Size...a lot of us like mixtes, because they're versatile, sizewise, but when you're short, a 52cm is a nice size for someone who's 5' 2" to about 5' 4".

East Hill

unworthy1 01-03-08 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by bigbossman (Post 5916207)
Hmmm.... this $10 clunker is getting more interesting all the time. Can't wait to actually get my hands on it to see what's what.

Anyone have a guess as to whether the BB will be standard Italian threading or not? Just wondering, cuz everything else is French......

I'll bite: ask your brother to read any marking on the crank: if it's Italian (like Magistroni or "house branded" Lygie) then I'd bet the BB is Italian threading, despite all the French componentry, since it's still likely an Atala shop product. BTW the saddle is an early Selle San Marco, before they typically added the "Selle" to their name, and they are kind of collectable to some folks. I sold one to a guy in the East (Coast, not Japan) for $90.

Otis 01-10-08 08:17 PM

I was digging through some old pics and found this. This frame is a low end Lygie Sprint similar to yours (but earlier). It was in worse shape, but that is one of my best rattle can jobs. Totally forgot about that one. Anyway here's what yours could be.

http://www.otis.g2solutions.biz/ebay...mp-leejay1.jpg

cyclotoine 01-10-08 08:28 PM

The FD might be as valuable or more so than the rear... I forget what model but last year there was a huret FD that went for over $200 on ebay. This bike could have been a very good purchase. I love the look of those huret RDs too.

bigbossman 01-10-08 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by cyclotoine (Post 5961843)
The FD might be as valuable or more so than the rear... I forget what model but last year there was a huret FD that went for over $200 on ebay. This bike could have been a very good purchase. I love the look of those huret RDs too.

You're making me very happy........ :D

I can't wait to actually get my hands on this bike.

Picchio Special 01-11-08 11:20 AM

Just for the record: I have no interest in the saddle.

cyclotoine 01-11-08 01:15 PM

FTW, I know very very little about French componentry (I did my bachelor in Campagnolo:p), but I think that is the Svelto RD:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...t/Svelto_1.jpg

SO I suspect the FD will match:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...et/Avant_1.jpg

Was there a jubilee FD? The CR site does not show one. In anycase, I know that there is a model of huret FD that came with and without the "hood" which is shown in the above photo. That is the funny looking protrusion from the front of the cage. I am not saying it is the svelto that is the valuable one. I have no idea what model it is, I just know there is a huret FD, model unknown to me, that is quite valuable if it is the early version without the "hood".

dbakl 01-11-08 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Otis (Post 5961775)
I was digging through some old pics and found this. This frame is a low end Lygie Sprint similar to yours (but earlier). It was in worse shape, but that is one of my best rattle can jobs. Totally forgot about that one. Anyway here's what yours could be.

Dang, that looks great!

sherbornpeddler 03-09-08 09:48 PM

I've a 24" Lygie circa 60's I rode across US in 1976. It'd been stripped of it's Campy stuff except cranks, headset and seatpost. I'm forever a fan of Bilenky who artfully refurbished it with S&S, budget mandated Shimano and saved my classic but bent fork. Since then I've ridden it in Florida, France, Spain, California and am planning a trip to her homeland.
http://www.sandsmachine.com/a_bil_r57.htm

Maybe a little heavy by today's standards but then so am I....She has Ruebanesque fender clearance, limousine ride (PMC 165 miles over 2 days and was fresh as a daisy compared to my Raleigh Pro, even better than Bicycling's "Plush bike of the year", Serotta Fierte).

gridplan 03-10-08 01:51 AM

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56...s/IMG_1628.jpg

sherbornpeddler 03-10-08 08:30 AM

È molto bello!

sherbornpeddler 03-11-08 05:17 AM

Lygie
 
Gridplan,
I advise against it but if you ever want to part with your Lygie banner please let me know. Pay no attention to other Lygie fans and discuss this with me only.....not compelling?
Puleese??

It is very nice.

gridplan 03-11-08 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by sherbornpeddler (Post 6320123)
Gridplan,
I advise against it but if you ever want to part with your Lygie banner please let me know. Pay no attention to other Lygie fans and discuss this with me only.....not compelling?
Puleese??

It is very nice.

Hehe. I'll be hanging on to it for now, but I appreciate the compliment. With the thread being about Lygies, I thought it would be a good time to take a picture of it. It was part of a deal I struck with a guy for an Umberto Dei sign.

top506 03-11-08 07:27 PM

This bike looks an awful lot like both my gaspipe Atala and a similar gaspipe Coppi in both frame and lug details and equipment (both had those Fiamme rims laced to 'North Star' high flange hobs).
The RD looks like the Huret Luxe that was on my daughters Ficelle. It went to Japan on the 'Bay, for stupid money.
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