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Old 06-03-10, 08:03 PM
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I just got a Grand Prix. This is my first road bike!

I'd like a little help identifying it. I can't seem to make sense of the serial numbers on Sheldon Brown's website.

The bike has "The Raleigh Nottingham" on the headplate. Only the rear wheel has a quick-release mechanism. The rear derailleur is a Simplex. The gearing is 52/40 on the front, and 14-28 on the rear. There's a 6-digit serial number on the rear dropout, beginning with 2. It has a Brooks saddle.

There seems to be tape over where the "Grand Prix" decal would be on the top tube. I'm reluctant to take it off as it may be hiding rust. What chance is there that a Raleigh red paint is available to touch up the frame?

I have a few more questions, what would be the most appropriate place to ask if not in this thread?
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This is as good a place as any.

Your front wheel has surely been replaced, if it doesn't have quick release. That's not surprising, given its age. It's a 1975 model or before, based on the derailleur.
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Posting a picture or two would help in identifing your Grand Prix. Have you visited the Retro Raleighs web site? If not, check it out:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroral...rand-prix.html

The bike's paint color, decals, type of cranks (cottered vs cotterless) can all help in IDing your bike.
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It makes sense that the front wheel's been replaced. Unlike the rear wheel, it has a rim with bumps on it. It is kind of annoying because it makes a lot of noise when braking.

From the catalog, I'd say the colour scheme is Carmine Red/Black. It has cottered cranks (Forgive the noobness, but that's when the cranks are attached with a pin, right?)

I'll upload some pictures of the decals, headplate, etc. soon. I got a box of tools with the bike, including one interesting wrench, I'll post that if anyone would be willing to tell what I'd be able to do with it. The freewheel seems to be a little wobbly, so I hope it can fix that.

The wheels aren't true, but they aren't so warped that they hit the brakes or fenders. How far should I let them get out of true before getting them fixed? I'm talking about a few millimeters' wobble.

And the brake levers are placed at an awkward angle. Moving them around on the handlebar wouldn't change cable tension, would it?

EDIT: some more info: the brakes are Weimann Vainqueur.
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You're using all the correct terminology, and there's never any need to apologize for being a newbie.

If the wheels don't hit the brakes, there's no urgent need to true them, but I would do it. There are good articles on the web telling you how. The best place to start on fixing your bike is http://www.sheldonbrown.com. We will help and walk you through it, too.

Moving the brake levers won't change cable tension.
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First Love

My first road bike was a 1974 Grand Prix in Green/Black. That bike served me well for a couple of years, including one tour from Mid-Michigan to Toronto in August '74. (I watched Nixon's resignation speech in the Eaton's on Yonge, surrounded by Canadians. It was a bit unusual).
That bike got me hooked on cycling and a was crushed when it was stolen from my dorm courtyard the following year.

I'm looking for another, in 21.5" if anyone has one laying around
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Originally Posted by StabbageCycle View Post
I just got a Grand Prix. This is my first road bike!

I'd like a little help identifying it. I can't seem to make sense of the serial numbers on Sheldon Brown's website.

The bike has "The Raleigh Nottingham" on the headplate. Only the rear wheel has a quick-release mechanism. The rear derailleur is a Simplex. The gearing is 52/40 on the front, and 14-28 on the rear. There's a 6-digit serial number on the rear dropout, beginning with 2. It has a Brooks saddle.

There seems to be tape over where the "Grand Prix" decal would be on the top tube. I'm reluctant to take it off as it may be hiding rust. What chance is there that a Raleigh red paint is available to touch up the frame?

I have a few more questions, what would be the most appropriate place to ask if not in this thread?
Have you read all of the posts on this thread? If not, go back to the beginning and compare your Grand Prix to some of the others posted here.

My '76 Carmine Red GP is on page three; does it look like yours? You can see more pics of mine on my Flickr site:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stl914/...7622060696215/
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Looks like my Grand Prix is definitely from 1974!

Here's a picture of the front brakes, where you can judge how much rust and grime it's built up over the years. I haven't cleaned it yet.



So my question is: what is the best way to go about cleaning it? I was gonna get some WD-40 and a scrubby pad. I tried that on the headplate and some of the paint came off It was quite chipped there anyway so I'll repaint using my old Warhammer skills.
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Looks like my Grand Prix is definitely from 1974!

Here's a picture of the front brakes, where you can judge how much rust and grime it's built up over the years. I haven't cleaned it yet.



So my question is: what is the best way to go about cleaning it? I was gonna get some WD-40 and a scrubby pad. I tried that on the headplate and some of the paint came off It was quite chipped there anyway so I'll repaint using my old Warhammer skills.
If you mean to clean the entire bike, wash it with hot soapy water and a spongeor cloth, tooth brush and bottle brush. If you want to clean the individual parts such as the brake calipers, use a good orange citric cleaner and a stiff brush. I use a parts cleaning brush that I bought at Harbor Freight. Letting the parts soak helps alot, it softens up the gunk.
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Here is my circa 1975 Raleigh Grand Prix, made under contract to Gazelle in Holland.
The wheels are replacement Ukai’s with Sunshine hubs and stainless spokes, and the rear DR is a late 70’s Shimano Skylark. And the front a stock Simplex …The pedals are new VP MTB alloy pedals – nice for the price, but you’ll have to adjust them when you get them.









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Just a bitter update, went looking in this thread for a decent picture of a SGP for a desperate "Was Stolen" ad I'm putting up on Kijiji. Freshly trued wheels and new bartape too. I go away for one damn weekend... my girlfriends SS Sekine was also swiped from her place several blocks away. Some POS was collecting vintage black bikes this weekend...
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Sauze - condolences from all your C&V pals on the theft of your bikes.

Aside, here is an offering on eBay. It is the first truly NOS item I’ve seen.
- From 1979,,,,


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT



NOS LATE 70'S RALEIGH SUPER GRAND PRIX RACING BICYCLE
Starting bid:US $9.99

New Old Stock! been in the box since 1979! Rare color "Super Grand Prix" made by "Raleigh in England"!! Still in the original wrapper with owners manual still attached! Oh yes in mint condition! do not see any nicks or scratches or damage! Just needs some light cleaning (that will be fun!) and assembly and you will have one of the nicest road bikes in the world! Comes with orig box too! I was told this is a high end bike with hand made frame and very collectible. I am not an expert on these so I posted lots of large pictures! ----- Starting out low with NO RESERVE! so bid to win! Where else can you get a brand new over 30 yr. old Raleigh bicycle made in "Birmingham"? ----- Email with any Q's ----- Very careful packing of the original box put into another box USA will be $75.00 fedex ground oversized rate on east coast and $95.00 west coast. ---- We will ship to Canada and UK in two boxes, priority air mail, email for rate. ---- Be sure to check out our other auctions and 100% feedback too!
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Bad news, the front wheel just got taco'ed today. So does anyone know if I'd have to get a rim off of another Raleigh (since I heard that only other Raleigh parts fit on Raleighs). Or would any one do?

I'm guessing it's the second option, since the front wheel looks like it was replaced anyway - it doesn't have the quick release lever. Just wanna confirm.
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Bad news, the front wheel just got taco'ed today. So does anyone know if I'd have to get a rim off of another Raleigh (since I heard that only other Raleigh parts fit on Raleighs). Or would any one do?

I'm guessing it's the second option, since the front wheel looks like it was replaced anyway - it doesn't have the quick release lever. Just wanna confirm.
Pretty much any 27" wheel should work. My new project, (A '77 Record) now has the weelset off an 80's Peugeot. I did have to file the front dropouts just slightly.
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Just picked up this identical bike, but it needs new decals, anyone know of a source?



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Just picked up this identical bike, but it needs new decals, anyone know of a source?
You can try VeloCals:

http://www.velocals.com/servlet/the-...990/Categories

Or the Cyclomondo e-Bay store:

http://stores.ebay.com/Cyclomondo
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Thanks for the links, that helped.

Originally, I was going to restore the frame to original condition including replicating the decals perfectly, but now am thinking it would be "lipstick on a pig" and instead do a hybrid with the black panels and maybe some Raleigh decals printed at home (with clear over to protect them).
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Spent a couple of hours in Photoshop the last two days and came up with this:



Original:


Not perfect, but captures the essence of the original. Will either print these on my inkjet as I've heard people can do, or will plunk down the money to have a signmaker print these up for me. If anyone likes it enough and want it on their bike, send me a message, I can have more made.

Now, to work on the Grand Prix decal on the top tube...
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Spent a couple of hours in Photoshop the last two days and came up with this:
Would you like to trace an original set?



Don't have the Grand Prix top tube decals, sorry. I believe some originals were on eBay.

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Brilliant stuff Kurt!!!

Now I can make a 20-30 decal and new fork decals for a couple of mine!
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For you Gran Prix Lovers, and it is still there too..

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...831846223.html





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Originally Posted by StabbageCycle View Post
What chance is there that a Raleigh red paint is available to touch up the frame?
Blue and red is a two stage paint.(metailc silver base)Krylon metals spray paint is a close match.
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Worked on the "Grand Prix" tonight. Took a photo of my Grand Prix top tube sticker. Not quite done with it, but pretty decent.

Before:


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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
Sauze - condolences from all your C&V pals on the theft of your bikes.

Aside, here is an offering on eBay. It is the first truly NOS item I’ve seen.
- From 1979,,,,


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT



NOS LATE 70'S RALEIGH SUPER GRAND PRIX RACING BICYCLE
Starting bid:US $9.99

New Old Stock! been in the box since 1979! Rare color "Super Grand Prix" made by "Raleigh in England"!! Still in the original wrapper with owners manual still attached! Oh yes in mint condition! do not see any nicks or scratches or damage! Just needs some light cleaning (that will be fun!) and assembly and you will have one of the nicest road bikes in the world! Comes with orig box too! I was told this is a high end bike with hand made frame and very collectible. I am not an expert on these so I posted lots of large pictures! ----- Starting out low with NO RESERVE! so bid to win! Where else can you get a brand new over 30 yr. old Raleigh bicycle made in "Birmingham"? ----- Email with any Q's ----- Very careful packing of the original box put into another box USA will be $75.00 fedex ground oversized rate on east coast and $95.00 west coast. ---- We will ship to Canada and UK in two boxes, priority air mail, email for rate. ---- Be sure to check out our other auctions and 100% feedback too!
This bike sold, anyone here got it? It looks very nice and NOS.

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