slushlover2

I'm going tomorrow morning to look at a Peugeot PKN10. It is a 1981 and is still with it's original owner. I mainly collect Italian bikes, but this looks very interesting. Can anyone give me a value price range ?

miamijim

I've seen UO8/P8's overlap with PSV/N10's. Its all relative to what you plan on doing with it and how much work it needs. Are you going to flip it or keep?

Luis Ocana 1973

I've got a 1980 PKN10 and it's a a great bike to ride.

retyred

Even though we couldn't help you out with pricing info let us know the outcome on the Peugeot.

MajorA

I bought mine for twenty bucks, but that was an absolute steal. It's a 531 frame, but main tubes only ... as a guide, framesets of that type (not Peugeot necessarily, but mass-produced mid- to mid/high level frames made from 1970 to 1985) sell on eBay for $100-$200. Depending on what it's built up with, and the quality of the finish (Peugeot started using some fairly hideous colors about then) I'd say $175-$300.

That said, mine's a great bike; holds its own with my '85 Scapin adn my '82 Austro-Daimler Starleicht. You won't be disappointed.

slushlover2

I went ahead and bought it today for $80. It is in great original condition. The owner replaced the fork with a full chrome Vitus when it was new. I bought it from the original owner. It is pearl white with very little paint damage. It looks nice sitting next to one of my Colnagos. I'm overhauling my litespeed right now, but the Peugeot will go into the shop next.As soon as my son visits from college, I will have him show me how to post pictures.

retyred

Wow! You got a great deal! Can't wait to see pictures.

Luis Ocana 1973

Does anyone know what type of steel Peugeot used for the PKN's stays/fork? Could it be Carbolite 103 or even Vitus 171?

miamijim

Luis, if they used 171 tubing they surely would have marked it as they followed that practice with other models. Probably 103

John E

It's just plain old carbon steel, perhaps so-called Carbolite 103. (Although not if Carbolite 103 is specifically seamless, since the PKN-10 forks and stays are all-too-visibly seamed.) The PR-10/PKN-10 is a great choice for someone who actually wants to ride a classic bike, because it has double-butted Reynolds 531 where it really counts. You get all the benefits of a PX-10, with a slight weight penalty, at a bargain price (you did very well). I would still be riding my 1980 if it had been a 55cm instead of a 57.

The only downside of owning a Peugeot of that vintage is the difficulty of finding Swiss-thread bottom brackets. Otherwise, I appreciate having (just) enough clearance for true 700Cx28mm tires and a great compromise between efficiency/stiffness and comfort/resilience.

tfgarner

Greetings from the True North. I was fortunate to buy a 1981 PKN 10 for a modest sum, and it has been a blast to ride - very responsive on tubulars (which are new for me), 21 - 22 pounds, great shifting with the Simplex Retrofrictions. I did treat myself to a modern 6-speed freewheel, a straight rear rim (Mavic of course) and modern Campy RD.

Mine came with a full chrome 531 fork with Reynolds stickers; this seems unusual although I'm not complaining. Has anyone else seen this combination? Otherwise it is as you all have described with butted 531 main tubes. All the Reynolds stickers are in French so this may be a domestic market variant.

Cheers all!

dlomsdalen

I have been riding my pkn10 for a couple months good 60dollar craigslist find. It's my first roadbike and I love it. For the price I paid I easily justified a Brooks swift saddle and dark brown bar tape. It's a beautiful classic ride. Also came with a campagnolo derailer that is worth more than the $60 I paid.
Recently got a late 80's schwinn tempo for the same price, tough call on whIch one to keep.

Keep riding!

Chombi

Yes, Carbolite 103 fork blades are seamed. Maybe that's why the forks were replaced at one time to a Vitus chromed model.
Carbolite tubes actually give a very lively feeling ride. I think the only think going against it was the weight penalty and its being non-butted. If you can cancel out some of the wieght with some lightweight components, and good wheels and tires, the PKN could give a stock contemporary PX10 a run for it's money, IMO.

Chombi

Grand Bois

The PR10 and PA10 also used the seamed 103 fork. I didn't notice the seam until I was preparing the PA10's fork for paint. It doesn't bother me. It's still a nice looking fork with a beautiful French curve and it doesn't seem to be excessively heavy.

old's'cool 

I'm curious, alloy steel has pretty much a fixed elastic modulus, so do you know how Peugeot was able to make a heavier frame that isn't also stiff feeling relative to the higher end frames (or is the U08 frame actually noticeably stiffer feeling than the lighter frames?

wrk101

Personally, I would be keeping the Tempo, assuming fit and condition are comparable. The late 1980s Schwinn Tenax bikes are really sweet. I have had two Preludes and one Tempo from that era myself. All of the components are standard sizing, so upgrading later will be very easy (and more affordable). Peugeots have strong following so you should be able to make good money selling the Peugeot.

At the same time, I have quite a few "keepers" right now, so if you have the room, go N+1!

peugeophile

The forks are definitely seamed, but I can find no evidence that the stays are. Also, it's my understanding that forks and stays aren't butted on even a total 531 frame. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Jon Z.
'80 PKN10E

PS, These are a VERY nice ride.

peugeophile

Really. I want to know if I'm wrong: Forks and stays ever butted? Stays seamed or seamless?.... Anyone?

Jon Z.