Durward_Kirby

I am restoring a 1986 Pinarello cross frame. I have run into a problem. The frame has only on nipple for a cable stop on the downtube and it is on the left. I've gone through all of the parts and don't see any wrap around type of fitting for the cable that goes to the rear deralieur. I have the adjustable style nipples that bolt onto the frame there at the downtube. Am I missing something? What is it that I don't get?

Thanks.

Durward_Kirby

A couple of more questions as I am new to the whole restoration thing with old bikes:

I took that frame to Phoenix today to get it painted. I've decided to restore the bike. I've got a couple of questions for you:

1. Should I stick with the 6 speed cassette that the bike came with? The frame is 134 mm at the drop outs.

2. Did cross bikes come with flat bars at the time or did the original owner just not "get it"?

3. It has top of the line (for the time) Shimano sl M730 shifters, WTB Grease Guard Hubs, Mavic cxp 12 wheels, a very tight and small 6 speed cassette, XT front and rear deraileurs, Shimano M730 Crankset with 48 and 36 cranks, a smooth bottom bracket and Tektro brakes. The brakes and brake levers were anodized pink at one point. They've been bleached out by the sunshine.

4. I'm going to paint the frame pearl white and get red decals for it and after it is painted with the white, I'm going to paint the filet work in the tubing red and clear coat it. It'll be pretty good looking.

jet sanchEz

I am guessing it is supposed to look like this:



You can see that the rear gears are changed from the bar-end shifter on the right drop and the front chainring would still be shifted from the downtube.

Durward_Kirby

That's the bike!

jet sanchEz

Welp, that is great but I wish I had more photos. This bike is a forum member's bike and I believe he posted it in the Cyclocross forum's "Show your bike thread" quite recently, so you can scan through that thread and find him and perhaps contact him for ideas. That is, if none of the other gurus in this forum come up with some answers for you. Personally, if it were me, I would leave it as you have it, it is race-ready, correct? Maybe get it up to 7 or 8-speeds but nah, just get a bigger cassette.

If you show up at any cross race with that thing, everyone will be all over it, there is nothing quite like a vintage Pini CX frame.

luker

oh. I see. and you probably do as well. the rear cable on a cross bike is customarily routed along the top tube, not down the down tube. The top tube has a triple cable stop, right? The front derailleur can go along the down tube, around the bottom, and up. both cables routed this way, no snaggy on the weeds with the accompanying ghost shifting.

no, you don't want to run six if you can afford to upgrade. I don't believe you want to run 10 because of the high stress, dirty environment, and those darned touchy 10-speed chains. 8 or 9 are more reasonable.

Cross bikes don't usually come with flat bars. When you run, your arm goes through the frame and hooks the drop, keeping the front wheel from repeatedly flopping into you.

I think 3 and 4 sound mostly reasonable. I don't particularly like the tektro brakes, but that is probably just me.

dvs cycles

There is a picture of a couple of frames on this page. 1989 Pinarello catalogue.
https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/pinarello89/9.jpg

Tom Seiler

Gentlemmen,
I am cleaning and restoring my 1984 Pinarello Catena Lusso that I have been riding for 24 years. I did NO maintenance on the bike during that period and it still rides great! Unfortunately, all the decals have peeled away.

They are individual letter decals on the final paint, then clear coated over. As they have peeled off, there is quite a "depression" between final paint and the adjacent clear coat. I have found vintage decals at the "bikingthing" website but they have a black border around each letter (which mine did not- all white) and they come on a clear decal sheet (all the letters are attached, not seperate).

One option is to hand paint in the decal area to fill in the letters. Does anyone have any other thoughts? Thanks in advance for your input.
Tom

Durward_Kirby

I had mine powdercoated. I didn't paint the lugs a different color and I did not replace decals on it.

A couple of pieces of advice:

1. The threads in the bottom bracket seemed to have been worn down a little by the stripping process and I had some major problems with my bottom bracket wanting to slip out. I had to put some lock tight on the bottom bracket and I haven't had any problems since. Be sure and use the non-permanent type.

2. Seat tubes, head tubes and bottom brackets get a little paint in them. Gasket remover, carefully applied will remove the paint so that you may insert the seat post and headset cups and thread in the bottom bracket.

3. Be sure and check out your powder coater. I think that I could have gotten a better job done on my frame by someone else. First try for me and several lessons learned.

DK

bbattle

Lance rode at least one TdF with a front der. downtube shifter.

luker

you'll have to have a steadier hand than I do, to paint (at least freehand). I have tried to touch up decals in the past, and it ends up looking like my grandson helped me out with some crayons. Yellow Jersey has had, in the past, original transfers to replace the missing ones. These were pressure sensitive, with what looks like actual pigment left behind. Truly beautiful when new, probably not the most dependable in the long run (I used some of these, and clearcoated over them. They seem to be doing okay, two years in). The other alternative that I know of is CycloMondo on eBay. He has a store and sells pretty good replicas. You might scan Hlloyds.com...they are British, but may have something Italian, I've just never looked.

USAZorro

Grandson?!?!? I always thought you were a 30-something.