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Old 03-21-08, 04:21 PM
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Schwinn Sport Limited (pics)

Hello everyone.

I apologize ahead of time -- there is no real point to this post. However: this is a classic bike forum; I searched and found no reference to this bike; and it IS pretty odd and classic and vintage.

I found this in the trash on garbage day not far from my house last spring, in exactly the condition you see here.

It has Maillard LF QR hubs with 27" Alesa (Belgian) 416 rims. The crankset is a Sakae EX (or FX?, can't read it). RD: Suntour VGT-X. FD: Suntour Spirit (stamped "Spirt"). Suntour PowerShifters, stem mounted. Unmarked Weinmann centerpull brakes, "safety" brake levers. Sakae MTB pedals with Christophe clips and straps. Straight seat post with super crappy vinyl covered saddle with the quilting molded on. Handlebar stem with recessed bolt and a nice big 'S' for Schwinn on it. Head tube emblem missing. Inner chainring missing. Cables as you see them. Tires hold air, are not original. Frame is 25.5 in. center-to-top.

For a while, I thought I knew which parts were original and which were replaced. Now, I'm not so sure -- except for the MTB pedals.

Some of the parts are going to make an encore appearance on my CCM project. (See my pics posted on the end of the other CCM project thread. The CCM is sitting in my basement right now waiting for me to make the rebuild/replace decision on the BB.

The frame is probably going to go on Ebay/Craig's and end up as some kid's fixie.

So there it is. Comments very welcome. I am always happy to talk bikes.

Joe
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Old 03-21-08, 04:26 PM
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I am not familiar with the model. Is that an electro-forged frame?
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It's a one year only (1979) model and has a fillet brazed chromoly frame. It was introduced to use up the inventory of Super Sport frames Schwinn had in stock. It didn't appear in any catalog and wasn't listed on the price list, so it's no wonder it's relatively unknown (and rare; about 1,000 were made).

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Wow! Let us know when you are ready to sell. I'm certain there are folks here who would love not to fixie this frame. What part of the country do you live in?
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Leave it 100% as is, and sell it whole, my humble opinion. That is one to be saved. Rarest model of SS I imagine? My size too,,,,BD
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Lucky you! Boy, I'm glad that is not my size so I won't feel tempted to bid. I really hope it goes back to stock condition and doesn't get the braze-on's shaved off and "fixed".

That is a rare bird ... I've only seen one other (a lady's model) in the wild.

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You don't need to be (and I am surely not) an expert to know that when you hear "only 1000 built" and "rare" that parting out the bike and selling the bare frame willy-nilly might not be the best tack to take. Sell it with whatever original parts it still has complete to a serious collector/restorer, or consider restoring it yourself. Keep the non-original bits for another project or sell those separately.

I'd suggest giving it to me for TLC, but as usual it's too big.
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It is essentially a fillet brazed Super Sport with much lighter components. I would suggest riding it before selling or parting it out. The Super Sports from 1960's and 1970's were great bikes with a very comfortable ride. The most frequently voiced complaint was that Schwinn took a relatively light frame and hung heavy steel components (such as the one piece crank) all over it. In this case Schwinn opted to replace the heavy components with lighters ones (a common upgrade for many Super Sport owners). Good find and very rare.
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Originally Posted by joychri View Post
It is essentially a fillet brazed Super Sport with much lighter components. I would suggest riding it before selling or parting it out. The Super Sports from 1960's and 1970's were great bikes with a very comfortable ride. The most frequently voiced complaint was that Schwinn took a relatively light frame and hung heavy steel components (such as the one piece crank) all over it. In this case Schwinn opted to replace the heavy components with lighters ones (a common upgrade for many Super Sport owners). Good find and very rare.
The 1968 S/S Tourer was (I believe) Schwinn's first venture into a 3-piece crankset bicycle outside of the Paramount. Equipped with T/A Pro (?) cranks and an absolutely horrible gear selection (52/45/38 front and 14/17/20/24/28 rear), Schwinn's standard Huret Allvit derailleurs, Atom (Normandie) LF hubs and Weinmann alloy rims, Weinmann C/P brakes. English threads in the crank hangar. Another rare model.

Mine didn't stay that way. Basically, with the near duplications in the gearing, Schwinn produced a 7-speed bicycle. When last I saw it, it had T/A Criterium cranks, Campy NR derailleurs and shifters, Campy seatpost and Unica Nitor saddle, Constrictor Asp clincher rims, Campy cups and bearings in hubs and crank, 60/56/52 front and Regina Oro 13/16/20/25/31 rear gearing - total 26T chain takeup, right at the stock Campy NR limit. 15 usable speeds fron 45 to 125. Neat bike, but I left it in a marital separation. Dummy me.

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Did we convince you Joe?

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Did someone remove the inner chainring and leave on the front derailleur?
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Originally Posted by johnph77 View Post
The 1968 S/S Tourer was (I believe) Schwinn's first venture into a 3-piece crankset bicycle outside of the Paramount. Neat bike, but I left it in a marital separation. Dummy me.
Too bad that got away from you. From what I have seen, or more to the point, not seen, the S/S Tourer is almost as rare as the Sport Limited. I have only seen one in person, and two(in poor condition), in ten years of watching ebay.

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The 1968 S/S Tourer was (I believe) Schwinn's first venture into a 3-piece crankset bicycle outside of the Paramount.
As early as 1941, Schwinn offered 3-piece cranks on some models other than the Paramount. The New World models were available with either a single piece crank (Model number followed by a "1") or a 3-piece crank (Model number followed by a "3").

For example, the Men's 3-speed (Sturmey-Archer 3-speed rear hub) New World Tourist with a one piece crank was model number W 1 MSC, while the same bike with a 3-piece crank was model number W 3 MSC.
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As Scooper in this thread says, it is fillet brazed, chromoly tubing. Hence, there are no lugs, no welded joints. All the tubing intersections are super clean. It has the look of having been glued together.

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I am not a fixie fan myself. Those darn kids are ruining all the quality, vintage-y, lugged frames I'm chasing after. I mean, it's not bad enough that they're sucking up all the frames from all the garage sales and Craig's list, but when I read that they were stripping off all the cable guides and braze-ons, I thought my head was going to explode.

Glad I got that off my chest.

That said, though, I've got to face facts. Even if I put this bike on Ebay (God help me!) There is no guarantee of who is going to get it -- those fixie kids are relentless.

I wouldn't mind making some dough on it -- you know, to support my bike rebuilding habit. I am a newbie here, so I understand I can't sell here. Maybe I will put it on Ebay and let the market do the rest.

I have to see if I can chase down the handlebar stem since I've already traded it away. Everything else I have as described, except I've reassembled two sets of safety brake levers from leftover parts. It's possible therefore that I've used the levers from this Schwinn on a Raleigh that I've already disposed of. As I mentioned though, the brake levers were damaged and not exactly memorable.

I am located in Cleveland, OH, BTW. I'll post a notice in a new thread on this forum when I list it on Ebay unless some better solution presents itself.

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I am not a fixie fan. As if it's not bad enough that these darn kids are snatching up all the quality, lugged, vintage-y frames that I'm chasing after, wh I read that they were stripping off all the cable guides and braze-ons, I thought my head was going to explode.

Glad I got that off my chest.

That said, I have to face facts. If I go the Ebay or Craig's list route, there is no guarantee of who is going to get it -- those fixie kids are relentless.

I wouldn't mind making some dough off this bike, you know -- to support my bike rebuilding habit. I am a newbie on Bike Forums, so I understand I can't sell here. If I decide to list the bike on Ebay though, I will start a new thread on this board just to notify those interested, if that's OK with the moderators.

I am in Cleveland, OH for the foreseeable future.

I also have to chase down the original handlebar stem, since I've already traded it away. Everything else is exasctly as described except I have assembled two sets of safety brake levers, so it's possible that the ones from the Schwinn went onto a Raleigh that I have already disposed of (donated, actually). As I mentioned though, the original brake levers were nothing unusual and were damaged as well.

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Now I see I've double-posted. Great. Sorry about that. I was kicked off before I finished the first one and then tried to reconstruct it. Now you have two. I hope they're not contracdictory. I also see all my reply posts are stacking up at the bottom. Sorry again. Kind of new at this.

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Yes, inner chainring gone, FD still there. Someone maybe trying to "fixie" it and gave up. Probably when he tried to find a 27" rear wheel to convert.

BTW, RD is a V-GT Luxe. I mis-identified it in my first post.
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East Hill,

Oh, you are sooo convincing me. I am leaning toward putting it on the market if it means I can begin to finance my next project and get one more bike out of my basement. We are trying to relocate and I still have a bunch of projects I have to deal with, namely a '77 or '78 Raleigh Grand Prix (this one is pretty nice, all original including tires), a Ross 290s, my daughter's Shogun which she wants to be a fixie (surprise!), my CCM-wish-I-hadn't-done-this- time-sucker, and my Peugeot PR10L that I actually ride.

Any advice from anyone on whether I should repack bearings or do any other cleaning/maintenance on the Schwinn befor putting it on the market?

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Any advice from anyone on whether I should repack bearings or do any other cleaning/maintenance on the Schwinn befor putting it on the market?

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Joe, IMHO you either should sell it "as is" and let the buyer restore it, or give it a full treatment restoration. Anything in between would probably be wasted effort.

Personally, as a buyer, I'd rather get it "as is" and restore it myself.
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Maybe try the "for trade" thread here before hitting the 'bay. Maybe someone has something you want?
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I just pulled my Sport Limited out of my basement, washed it off, and took it for a spin. Did I really get that back in 1979??? It sounds about right. I remember I promised my parents that I would babysit my little brother all summer long if they would buy me a new red Schwinn. Wowwww!

Anyways, thanks for the great info on my bike. I think it costed between $900 to $1200. It was bought from Naults Cyclery in Manchester, NH. It is still completely stock except for the bar tape, and I think the tires and seat.
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I just pulled my Sport Limited out of my basement, washed it off, and took it for a spin. Did I really get that back in 1979??? It sounds about right. I remember I promised my parents that I would babysit my little brother all summer long if they would buy me a new red Schwinn. Wowwww!

Anyways, thanks for the great info on my bike. I think it costed between $900 to $1200. It was bought from Naults Cyclery in Manchester, NH. It is still completely stock except for the bar tape, and I think the tires and seat.
Although it's a very nice and rare bike, it's doubtful the Sport Limited sold for $900 to $1200 in 1979 since the 1979 P13-9 Road Racing Paramount retailed for $900. Since the Schwinn factory didn't provide a suggested retail price for the Sport Limited, Naults Cyclery could have charged whatever the market would bear. However, it's hard to believe a knowledgable customer would have paid the same price for a Sport Limited that the P13-9 Paramount sold for.

I just bought a '73 Super Sport on eBay that I plan to restore and upgrade with a new Campy Comp Triple group. My first "real" road bike was a '73 Opaque Blue Super Sport that was stolen in 1980, so this will be a trip down memory lane for me.

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