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Old 03-22-08, 11:15 AM
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Bought another bike even though I probably shouldn't have.

I found a Raleigh Technium 450 on Craigslist this morning. Actually I found a bike rack for my car and the guy just happend to have this bike. I spent the long dollar ($150) but I wanted a bike. He is the original owner says he got it in '89 or '90. Paint is good, tires are in need of replacing. Shifts smooth, brakes work. Here are my questions. I have heard of the components but don't know much about them. The rear D says Shimano SIS, the front just says Shimano. Shifters say shimano light action and feel really good considering the age, former owner said he hasn't road it since a year after he bought it. Hubs are Maillard, wheels are Rigida. Cranks and bars are Sakae Ra... forgot how to spell it. So other than the lukewarm feelings about the frame, what about the components? Decent? Thanks.

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Old 03-22-08, 05:57 PM
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From my (limited) experience most Shimano parts just labelled "SIS" are pretty bottom of the barrel. That doesn't mean they won't work- I had one on the mountain bike that I first started commuting on and it didn't explode into a hundred pieces or anything. Looked pretty crappy though, but then again so did the rest of the bike. Usually they come on Walmart type bikes from what I've seen.
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Old 03-22-08, 06:38 PM
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The early stuff labeled SIS, I have found to be just fine. A bike from the 80's that have components that say SIS are far higher quality then the stuff on a current era Wally World bike. When indexing was young proclaiming SIS was an indication of the latest technology.
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I could be wrong, but I think some of the old Shimano Light Action rear derailers just said Shimano SIS on them. This would make sense w/the Light Action shifters. Araya rims and Maillard hubs also seem to indicate something better than that bottom-o-the-barrel SIS stuff.
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Old 03-22-08, 09:41 PM
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I was a little worried about the components, but a friend of mine told me (caution, the following could be way out of line) that if it came with the SR crank and bars that it probably isn't all the way at the bottom end. Oh and the guy I got it from swore he paid like $500 or $600 for it, brand new. Either way i figure for $150, worse case scenario I pawn it and break even.

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Old 03-22-08, 11:45 PM
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It sounds like you made a good deal.
I swapped an SIS off a Pacific (RoadMasters sibling) onto my brothers former SunTour equipped 75 Takara 10 speed and he felt it shifted better. The SunTour der had been damaged, or else we wouldn't have bothered. This was a stem mounted friction shifter, so indexing wasn't a concern.
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Old 03-23-08, 01:34 AM
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You got yourself there a pretty good bike for $50. And yes, the bike did cost that much new.
The Raleigh Techniums used a bonded aluminum main triangle to conventional Cr-Mo stays and forks/head tube. I just picked myself a 1986 440 (see Catch of the Day thread).
The Shimano Light Action is good stuff, works reliably. Maillard and Rigida are French.
And the Sakae Ringyo (SR) crank is likely an SA or SX, the stem and handlebars, and seatpost is also made by them. SR makes decent quality parts.
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Not a bad $50 spent. I wonder if that's a Helicomatic hub.

The part that isn't in my vocabulary is "even though I probably shouldn't have." I have trouble comprehending that.
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Bought another bike even though I probably shouldn't have.
You too?
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Originally Posted by digitalbicycle View Post
I could be wrong, but I think some of the old Shimano Light Action rear derailers just said Shimano SIS on them. This would make sense w/the Light Action shifters. Araya rims and Maillard hubs also seem to indicate something better than that bottom-o-the-barrel SIS stuff.
I'm pretty sure this is correct. When the S.L.A. groups came out in the late 80s, the RD's were marked "S.I.S." My '87 Trek 400 has one, and the 1987 catalog descriptions at vintage-trek.com shows that the 560 that year came with a "600EX S.I.S." These are nothing like the cheaper S.I.S., usually with the white-on-black lettering, that showed up a few years later.
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Oh and the guy I got it from swore he paid like $500 or $600 for it, brand new.
Even though the link is about MTB's there is some info on the Technium process in general. Raleigh had a lot of sucess in road racing with those frames. http://mombat.org/Raleigh.htm Start at 1984 and read on from there. The Technium's were race bike inspired. Sounds like you have a nice bike. Good luck.


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You too?
Yep N+1, is an universal law.
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One more lesson learned. When sizing a bike, don't do it on flat tires, that 1" makes a lot of difference when it is already a little too big. Live and learn.

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Helicomatic hub???

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Helicomatic hub???

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Nothing to fret about unless you need to remove the freewheel. Look at the "freewheels" paragraph here:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/velos.html
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