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Urgent--attaching new 3-speed shifter cable to old bike

Old 03-24-08, 08:18 PM
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Urgent--attaching new 3-speed shifter cable to old bike

I bought an old 60's Huffy Sportsman at auction for ten bucks and took the whole thing apart to restore as a surprise for my husband for his birthday. He wants a bike, I have a vintage 3-speed he really likes, blah blah blah great idea.

EXCEPT, I am a *total* newbie at bike repair, much less rebuilding, and I have the whole thing repainted, cleaned up, oiled up, and miraculously put back together, except I cannot for the life of me figure out the new shifter cable. I've gotten it secured to the shifter and the hub, but how do I attach it to the frame so that the tension is all correct? The old cable didn't have any housing and ran through a pulley-type clip, which I have (but the new fully housed cable doesn't fit in), and also a clip (fulcrum?) with a sort of triangular shape to one side of it. That's it.

It's a Sturmey-Archer 3-speed hub, and a new Sturmey-Archer shifter cable.

I'm having a feeling at this point that the morning birthday bike ride isn't going to happen, but if someone could magically help me out on this, I would be forever grateful. (And even help on a later day would be great.)
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Old 03-24-08, 08:26 PM
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sorry i can't help you on this, but i'm sure neal will be along any minute now...he's da man.
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Old 03-24-08, 10:01 PM
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Dig around in here a little.
http://sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer.html#adjustment

But I'll try to answer the question as best I can. The cable and housing run from the shifter to the top tube. There should be a clip the holds the end of the cable housing in place on the frame's top horizontal tube. From there the bare cable continues on around the pulley to the small chain that goes into the hub. That cable housing retainer clip on the top tube is what establishes the cable tension.

It sounds like you need to remove the housing from the cable as it travels from the clip to the hub.

Neal, tell me if I'm right!

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Old 03-24-08, 10:27 PM
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It sounds like the cable housing only goes from the shifter to the top tube. there is a band with a round slotted insert that is flattened on one side to allow it to fit against the frame. The cable housing ends in that insert and only bare cable runs from there. SEE picture. is there a band with a little plastic wheel on it? if there isn't the full length of the cable runs to a cable stop on the chainstay, similar to externally geared bikes but the stop would be closer to the bottom bracket than the rear drop out. good luck Happy Birthday!!

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Old 03-24-08, 10:33 PM
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Here's a drawing of the clip and the slotted insert.
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Old 03-25-08, 12:19 AM
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I did dig around (a lot) in that Sturmey Archer site before I came here--it's where I got almost all my info for the rebuild--but this was the one thing I couldn't find.

What you said makes sense, and I'll try it in the morning. Thank you very much! Pictures help a lot
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Old 03-25-08, 02:54 AM
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Leigh,
Sounds like you might have one of the full coverage cables. Some of the SA 3 speeds used a cable with the housing clamped down on the rear chain stay near the rear wheel. (Sorry I don't have a picture handy) If your bike has the fulcrum and the pulley it won't use the full housing.

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Old 03-25-08, 04:52 AM
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I think Aaron has it right; that cable stop goes on the right chainstay a few inches from the hub, and the shifter cable goes from the trigger, runs along the downtube, goes behind the crankset, and then to that cable stop. You can secure it to the frame tubes with cable clips or zip ties.

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If you already had a Sturmey-Archer on the Huffy, and it didn't have a full housing, installation (fairly rare) then it probably had a cable stop on the top tube, nearer the front end than the rear, and the housing stops there, on the right side of the top tube, using the pieces illustrated above in JVW's post. You'd cut the housing to length, making sure that you have enough bend/slack in it to allow the handlebars full movement without kinking it.

From there, the cable would run "bare" to the pulley, attached somewhere near the seat, upon which the cable changes direction, and gets routed down to the area of the hub. You follow Sheldon Brown's instructions for adjusting the hub with the cable set screw and (for final adjustment) the little turnbuckle, that occur together right outside the hub on its right side.

If you have a "full housing" installation, I don't know about those. If worse comes to worse, publish photos of the bike in question, and the parts you have.
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If you didn't have a cable housing before, don't use one now - there has to be a stop which holds the housing rigid somewhere - in your case, it will have been well before the pulley. Find that, and cut the cable to that length. In order to use a full cable housing, you'd have to have a cable stop right near the hub.
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Thank you again! I cut the housing and ran it through the stop and the pulley as you said, and it worked--we were able to go for a ride today after all, and it was perfect. My husband thanks you too! He loves his new bike (though the ride we went on today was a bit hilly for a couple of clunky three speeds, we had a great time )

Now I have some tune-up to do, so I'm sure I'll be back. Hopefully with all this bike repair I'm doing, I'll be able to help someone else out soon.

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Originally Posted by leigh003 View Post
Thank you again! I cut the housing and ran it through the stop and the pulley as you said, and it worked--we were able to go for a ride today after all, and it was perfect. My husband thanks you too! He loves his new bike (though the ride we went on today was a bit hilly for a couple of clunky three speeds, we had a great time )

Now I have some tune-up to do, so I'm sure I'll be back. Hopefully with all this bike repair I'm doing, I'll be able to help someone else out soon.
HEY! Where Da Pictures!??!

You bought a Vintage Bike and Haven't posted pictures?

EastHill you are getting slaaaack!

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Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
HEY! Where Da Pictures!??!

You bought a Vintage Bike and Haven't posted pictures?

EastHill you are getting slaaaack!

Aaron
I was out riding the Sachs in the

RAIN

earlier

I think this got posted just around the time I would have been thinking about going to work last night.

At any rate, we need photos!

Congrats on getting the bike sorted out and back into rideable shape, and Welcome to BikeForums!

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Originally Posted by leigh003 View Post
I did dig around (a lot) in that Sturmey Archer site before I came here--it's where I got almost all my info for the rebuild--but this was the one thing I couldn't find.

What you said makes sense, and I'll try it in the morning. Thank you very much! Pictures help a lot
SWEET!!!
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Old 04-02-08, 07:41 PM
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Pictures requested, pictures received. Unfortunately it was so rusty I had to repaint it, so you can no longer see the HUFFY SPORTSMAN on the chain guard and MADE IN ENGLAND on the frame...but it's still a pretty cool bike.
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