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Old 04-15-08, 01:22 PM
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Bicycle weight; I was surprised!

Yesterday I picked up a Trek 1000 on CL. As I put in in the Explorer it felt heavy. Today I weighed my four bikes plus this one to see if I was wrong about the weight. I flip a lot of bikes so I can tell weight pretty close right away. Here is what the five bikes weigh. None had lightweight seats or pedals when I weighed them. The smallest road bike weighed the most. NOTE The 750 is not a road bike


1989 Trek 1000 aluminum 30" stand over =23.8 pounds

1989 Cannondale Criterium 34" stand over=21.6 pounds

1987 Centurion Dave Scot Ironman 33"stand over=22.6 pounds

1989 Centurion LeMans 31" stand over =23 pounds

1990 Trek 750 Multitrack = 27 pounds

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Those sound like pretty typical vintage bike weights to me.

Bianchi: 22 lbs / 10 kg
Capo #1: 24 lbs / 11 kg
Peugeot UO-8 and Schwinn mountain bike: 26 lbs/ 12 kg
(On the Peugeot, my aluminum cranks, handlebars, and rims help a bit.)
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My 2005 Orbea Dauphine without water bottles is 18 pounds. 7005 series aluminum with carbon fork, seatstays and seatpost. A rough guesstimate is that my 2006 Bianchi San Jose SS/FG is ~20 pounds. Chromoly frame but no derailleurs, cassette, extra chainring.

Early 70's Raleigh Ltd. - 3 comes in at 30-something pounds. and that's with new alloy wheels. I suppose if I spent another $200 and got aluminum bars, stem, cotterless cranks and a new saddle to replace the Brooks vinyl mattress I could get the weight to around 25 pounds. Now we're talking mountain bike weight.
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Lightest I ever got was 18.5 pounds with a Peugeot PSV-10 outfitted with original brake calipers, Shimano 600 drivetrain & STI shifters, and a pair of FSA RD-80 wheels running an 8-speed cluster.

Otherwise, of the bikes that I have weighed, my '84 Raleigh USA Competition comes in at 20lbs exactly, '84 Super Course (w/Campag Victory) at 21lbs. Haven't weighed my Columbus-EL tubed Guerciotti, which is currently running the FSA RD-80s (which do a lot to shave weight, I must admit).

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I have had the four bikes above for almost two years. Most of the vintage bikes I have sold have weighed from 25-28 pounds with a few around 29-30. There have been a couple at 19 pounds.The 1987 Trek 1000 was listed at 21.1 pounds for a larger bike than this one. It is a nice bike and I picked up cheap with out a seat or pedals. I got it to give as a gift to my son inlaw or one of my older grandkids.It will be far beyond what they are riding now.
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I do not sweat the extra kilo or two of fixed weight my Bianchi carries. My rims are light, for fast acceleration, and the rest makes very little difference on a climb, and no difference on a descent or on level ground.
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Large framed Paramount, Premis, Guerciotti, and Dave Scott Ironman Expert - all 22 lbs. 58cm Fuji World w/853 tubing before rack, etc. 23 lbs.
Scattante Aluminum w/CF fork - just under 21 lbs (more when 700x35 are mounted, 700x23 now) - new build.

I consider 23 lbs and less for lugged steel bikes to be one indicator of quality.
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My 55cm bianchi tsx/ul weighs 22 lbs w/ pedals (funny how cos. these days provide bike weights w/o pedals).

I suppose I could lighten it up a bit, however, my campy 6 speed hubs laced to 36 hole mavic module e rims are BOMBPROOF. Always very true.

My 56cm 1984 peugeot psvn is about 1 lb lighter.
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My 55cm bianchi tsx/ul weighs 22 lbs w/ pedals ...
When I was growing up and through my college years, all of the "good" bikes seemed to weigh about 10 kilos, and everything in this thread has been consistent with that observation.
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"1989 Trek 1000 aluminum 30" stand over =23.8 pounds"

On the one hand I'm mad because my '79 Schwinn Traveler weighs 2.5 pounds more. On the other hand, my Schwinn has a 60cm gaspipe frame and I bought it for only $40 and then spent about $45 buying used alloy wheels, handlebars, and seatpost to get it down to that 26 pounds so I'm happy. I have never seen a 22 pound bike for $11 in a thrift store around here!
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Originally Posted by Caferacernoc View Post
"I have never seen a 22 pound bike for $11 in a thrift store around here!
one may pop up----the guy who sold me my 21 pound peugeot psvn said he found it in a thrift shop.
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Originally Posted by EddyR View Post
1987 Centurion Dave Scot Ironman 33"stand over=22.6 pounds

1989 Centurion LeMans 31" stand over =23 pounds

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This ad is from 1984, probably before the Dave Scott versions. The Centurion is a Comp TA triathlete model and the ad says both bikes weigh 22.7 lbs.

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Ah ha, found this thread. I’m not a weight weenie nor trying to ‘grade’ the old steel bikes by weight.

The recent thread on heavy bikes got me interested in weighing my bikes and I discovered the wife bought a luggage scale.

The results kinda surprised me, With their consistency.
Take out the hi-ten Durifort bike with 27” wheels (29.4#)
Take out the 2 bikes with fenders (26.6# & 25.4#)
The remaining 7 bikes have a spread of only 1.1 pounds from 22.4# -23.5#. The tubesets are Columbus SLX/SL/SP, Ishi022, and various 531. Of these 7, if I eliminate the only triple, the spread becomes 0.3 pounds.

On my 3 newest bikes, all have Campy 10, the weights are 19.4 to 20.4#
Carbon = the lightest, Ti with triple the heaviest.

No conclusions, just data.

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Ah ha, found this thread. I’m not a weight weenie or trying to ‘grade’ the old steel bikes by weight.

The recent thread on heavy bikes got me interested in weighing my bikes and I discovered the wife bought a luggage scale.

The results kinda surprised me, With their consistency.
Take out the hi-ten Durifort bike with 27” wheels (29.4#)
Take out the 2 bikes with fenders (26.6# & 25.4#)
The remaining 7 bikes have a spread of only 1.1 pounds from 22.4# -23.5#. The tubesets are Columbus SLX/SL/SP, Ishi022, and various 531. Of these 7, if I eliminate the only triple, the spread becomes 0.3 pounds.

On my 3 newest bikes, all have Campy 10, the weights are 19.4 to 20.4#
Carbon = the lightest, Ti with triple the heaviest.

No conclusions, just data.
A triple setup only adds the weight of the granny ring (35gm for the three SS 24T in my inventory) and a few grams more for the slightly longer derailleur cages and additional chain ring bolts. But double-loving folks always cite the weight impact. Oh well...
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I've got an 87 model Ironman down to 21-1/2lbs. bare weight. It's mainly due to the super light replacement wheels & tires on it. The lightest steel bike I ever owned was a 56cm 1972 Bottecchia with Columbus tubing and Campagnola drivetrain that weighed in at 20 lbs.
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All my bikes are steel. The lightest are my 1981 Stevenson with a mix of KL and SL, all Super Record, at about 19-1/2 pounds, and my Rodriguez travel bike at about 18. Both of these bikes use light rims and tubulars. The Rodriguez has a carbon fork.
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I have a 84 Trek 170 made from Reynolds 753 tubing, Campy SR, Omas headset, Omas titanium bottom bracket, Cinelli saddle with alloy rails, titanium Campy SR pedals, Mavic 280 wheels with alloy freewheel. It weighs 19 lbs. My 90s Ritchey with a semi modern Dura Ace 10 speed and super light Rolf wheels weigh 18 lbs. All my other steel bikes weigh 21-23 lbs.
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Most of my steel bikes are at right at 20 pounds, with my Peugeot PSV at a slightly lighter 19 pounds, with no real weenie components on them except for tubular wheelers. I was kind of surprised as I thought they would be at least at 22 pounds. I think it's the tubular wheelsets on all of them that make a big difference. My lightest bike is my 86 CF Vitus Carbone. I can get it towards 15 pounds if I can find Ti axled BB, and hubs for it

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I had nothing to do with the content of this post.

Then again, I just bought a 6800 group and put it on an Ironman, 56cm, kept a quill stem, but went with a carbon post to get it to 19.89 lbs.

Despite the weight, it fairly leaps. On the shakedown ride, on a smooth stretch of road after 2 encounters with the same doe, one of the 24 spokes on the "modern" wheels decided I didn't need a 32-mile ride, but a 16-mile ride and a 7-mile walk.

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This ad is from 1984, probably before the Dave Scott versions. The Centurion is a Comp TA triathlete model and the ad says both bikes weigh 22.7 lbs.

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decades ago I factored in weight. Came to the conclusion wheel weight made a small difference, the weight difference between say a Colnago Mexico or a Cinelli Super Corsa (most seeming made of SP tubing) did not make a difference.
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Maybe I’ve got a wonky scale. 20 lbs in my size is unobtainable. 22 lbs would be a minor miracle. I mean with pedals and maybe a bottle cage.

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mine are heavy.
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We did this before.


1933 Frejus Model A (spare tire removed for weighing) - 25.0


_MG_8990 by iabisdb, on Flickr



1949 Viscontea Pista - 18.9


Viscontea 001 by iabisdb, on Flickr



1950 Pecorari - 21.4


Pecorari 001 by iabisdb, on Flickr



1953 Bianchi Selvino - 27.4


1953 Bianchi Selvino 033 by iabisdb, on Flickr



1960 Cinelli Model B (spare tire removed before weighing) - 25.1


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2009 Cinelli XCR - 15.5


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Resurrected thread. Always fun though.
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