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USAZorro 04-22-08 07:59 PM

I'd run canti's before any of the chunks of funk in the link in the first post.

Chris_in_Miami 04-22-08 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by justinb (Post 6566489)
The new Specialized Transition TT bike uses centerpulls. They're more aero, especially hidden behind the bottom bracket. This picture isn't out of place here, is it? ;)

That's going to give me nightmares.:(

dbakl 04-22-08 09:10 PM

I think centerpulls died a deserved death about 1969, when Campagnolo brought out their sidepulls...

Roll-Monroe-Co 04-22-08 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by USAZorro (Post 6567056)
I'd run canti's before any of the chunks of funk in the link in the first post.

Gosh. Until now, I'd thought that a chunk of funk was a good thing. :p

MIN 04-22-08 09:24 PM

Question for you folks, is there a store online that sells this stuff as NOS? (Not ebay?)

top506 04-22-08 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by dbakl (Post 6567543)
I think centerpulls died a deserved death about 1969, when Campagnolo brought out their sidepulls...

Early campy sidepulls were quiet, pretty, filled the holes in the fork and seatstay bridge, and did everything they were meant to do.....except stop the bike.
Top

dannyg1 04-23-08 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by MIN (Post 6567641)
Question for you folks, is there a store online that sells this stuff as NOS? (Not ebay?)

Try Velo-Orange.com and bicycleclassics.com

Danny

Sixty Fiver 04-23-08 02:00 AM


Originally Posted by dbakl (Post 6567543)
I think centerpulls died a deserved death about 1969, when Campagnolo brought out their sidepulls...

Dunno... I only run one brake on my fixed Peugeot and it's a Weinmann centre pull. It's not exotic but it is hellishly strong and it will bring me down from 50 plus kmh in a hurry all by itself.

stronglight 04-23-08 04:23 AM

I don't recall whether the bike was a production fabrication or a one-off custom TT bike, but I fairly recently saw detailed photos of a CF frame & fork with some sort of what were described as center-pull calipers actually set into the fork blades in the front and between the chainstay... uh... "fairings"? (which is to say, the extremely widened monocoque stays (more like wings) which tapered down from behind the seatpost/BB area). The front brake cables were of course entirely routed internally somehow through the steering tube, so that only minimal sections of the brake pads were seen beside the front rim, while the rest of the calipers were entirely concealed within recesses in the fork blades. A really amazing design. Maximum aerodynamics naturally, but it seemed a great idea for even a futuristic touring bike - since EVERYTHING possible would be protected from the elements.

Im Fixed 04-23-08 06:52 AM

I like the look of the Campy delta's.

lotek 04-23-08 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by USAZorro (Post 6567056)
I'd run canti's before any of the chunks of funk in the link in the first post.

Don Diego,
Send me any of those 'chunks of funk (junk?) that you happen to have. I really like the
look of the deltas. The last set of Modolo Kronos I saw sold way north of $300 (and higher for
NOS) just know they do not stop bikes at all, and are prone to cracking.
My Croce Deltas stop just fine thank you. It's all in the setup.

I think the covers look stunning when polished, these are
record deltas from Campy Only:

http://www.paulappleyard.co.uk/Polished_Delta_02.jpg
photo courtesy of campy only
Marty

dannyg1 04-23-08 07:40 AM

That's not a Croce D'Aune brake. Looks like a last generation, 5 pivot Record.

Danny

QuickDraw 04-23-08 08:09 AM

Yea my Croce Deltas work great, as stated above, it is all in the setup. I think they're the nicest looking brakes around. I do have a single speed conversion as well so I'm sure some of you may disagree with my tastes.

lotek 04-23-08 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by dannyg1 (Post 6569129)
That's not a Croce D'Aune brake. Looks like a last generation, 5 pivot Record.

Danny

Nope, sorry for the confusion.
Those are not my brakes, nor are the Croce.
I'll fix original post.

marty

cudak888 04-23-08 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by stronglight (Post 6568565)
...but it seemed a great idea for even a futuristic touring bike - since EVERYTHING possible would be protected from the elements.

How can it be, if the pads must pop out of the blades in one form or another to contact the rim? Not only will you then trap crud into the open gap, I can just imagine one attempting to purchase replacement pads while stuck in some hole in the wall town with a single, understocked bike shop.

-Kurt

USAZorro 04-23-08 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by lotek (Post 6569095)
Don Diego,
Send me any of those 'chunks of funk (junk?) that you happen to have. I really like the
look of the deltas. ...

Don Diego is a man of modest means. Surely, if he had any of the pictured brake calipers, he would sell them on e-Bay and use the proceeds to drive the Alcalde from these parts.

Drwecki 04-23-08 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Dirtdrop (Post 6567054)
You quoted me, but you don't seem to be responding to to anything I said. Did you click "reply with quote" on the wrong post?


I thought the quote would include the picture of the shimano dura ace 70's brakes that you posted...it didn't don't know why... is there a quote with picture somewhere???

Drwecki 04-23-08 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by justinb (Post 6566489)
The new Specialized Transition TT bike uses centerpulls. They're more aero, especially hidden behind the bottom bracket. This picture isn't out of place here, is it? ;)

http://shop.devercycles.co.uk/images/prod_3433.jpg


These probably don't have the reach (front only is all I use) but can you purchase them in the market and what's the going rate? Just curious... I wish they made knock offs :) Obviously I don't drive too fast :)

04jtb 04-23-08 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 6566006)
Here are my favorite centerpulls: Weinmann models with steel hangers (which gets rid of the slop of wire straddle cables):

http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/Bi...nmannBrake.jpg

Neal

I got these on my Dawes Galaxy, I think they are a bit flexy and I don't like them that much, but they do their job, and well most of the time

justinb 04-23-08 03:26 PM

In my limited searching, the Specialized Transition brakes are available only on the Specialized frames, not as aftermarket parts. If you really really really want some, I would suggest you

a.) mug Paolo Bettini next time you see him time trialling. He's pretty small, you can take him.

b.) buy a transition frame module (3k USD), remove the brakes, and sell the frame on ebay, likely at a loss.

Neither option seems particularly palatable to me. ;)


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