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kbjack 05-05-08 10:57 PM

I have a '73 (I think?--block lettering, capella lugs) supercourse frame. It takes a 68mm English threaded BB (pretty standard--not the proprietary version). The length of the spindle will depend on your crank and the chainline you're after, but the spindle on mine is 113mm for a single ring up front and a fixed cog in the rear. This gives me roughly a 42mm chainline--not sure if this is what you're after with the Nexus hub in back, though.

I don't think there's any reason to spend that much money on a BB. This might be blasphemy but I've used the nashbar square taper BB with success (http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...tom%20Brackets)
They'll probably have a sale soon (as long as the sun comes up in the morning and goes down at night).

Unless you're looking for a BB that will outlast the life of the bike, this should work.

kranz 05-06-08 04:15 AM

I have a Raleigh Carlton 78 Supercourse. My frame looks pretty much like yours except for the chrome on the fork. Mine is copper colored rather than green. I used a Shimano 122mm UN53. THe 122mm length gave me the correct chain line. NOS Shimano UN** BBs show up frequently on eBay for ~$20. I think Sheldon Brown's Web site has a discussion of using the Shimano BBs on vintage Raleighs.

capricho 05-07-08 08:57 PM

The frame arrived today and it looks like a 9.8 out of 10. A very small nick on the front fork, a couple of pin prick sized nicks on the top tube, and a slightly tired 531 decal spoil an otherwise mint frame. Now the interesting thing is, the lugs are not Capella. They are the later Supercourse II style lugs. I guess this frame was built at the end of the run of the standard Supercourse just before the arrival of the Mark II, making this frame to be a '74. It curiously has a Shimano shifter bracket and the brakes on it are Mafac Racers. I suspect this frame was in fact built up at one point using non stock parts.

I'll take pictures soon.

USAZorro 05-07-08 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by capricho (Post 6656045)
The frame arrived today and it looks like a 9.8 out of 10. A very small nick on the front fork, a couple of pin prick sized nicks on the top tube, and a slightly tired 531 decal spoil an otherwise mint frame. Now the interesting thing is, the lugs are not Capella. They are the later Supercourse II style lugs. I guess this frame was built at the end of the run of the standard Supercourse just before the arrival of the Mark II, making this frame to be a '74. It curiously has a Shimano shifter bracket and the brakes on it are Mafac Racers. I suspect this frame was in fact built up at one point using non stock parts.

I'll take pictures soon.

I suspect you're correct about the parts. Those lugs are Prugnats btw.

Saintly Loser 05-08-08 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by capricho (Post 6643103)
In building up this frame, I will probably need a bottom bracket. I'm assuming none exists on the frame now. Do any of you Raleigh experts recommend a bottom bracket brand? I've heard of Phil Wood and may get that but I am clueless about which size will work.

Thanks in advance..

I put a Shimano sealed unit in my '74 Supercourse. The shell is 68mm. Any standard BB will fit. If you want to spend big bucks, sure, the Phil is a thing of beauty, but you don't have to. The spindle length will depend upon what kind of crank you're planning on using. Sounds like you're going with a single chainring. I went with a triple, so you might want a shorter spindle.

capricho 05-10-08 08:09 PM

As promised the pictures of this frame can be found here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/5860556...57604991958189

capricho 05-27-08 10:20 AM

Update:

I just purchased an old TA crankset with chainrings of 54/42/28. I am inclined to use period correct components on this build and I would like to hear from other experts which front derailleur would be most suitable for this crank. I'm running a 6-speed freewheel with a first gen. Cyclone rear derailleur. Thanks in advance!

nlerner 05-27-08 10:35 AM

If you have the matching first gen. Cyclone FD, I'd try it and see if the cage is long enough to handle that spread. Here's a thread that'll give some guidance, too: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=259246

Neal


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