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Old 05-07-14, 04:39 AM
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Last weekend I bought a Duell Pilot frame. Yesterday I received my second hand 2x8 speed Campagnolo Chorus groupset. This is the result:















Wish list: remove the Rigida DP18 stickers, silver stem, headset & spacers.

Does anyone know how old the frame might be? It is made of Columbus Thron (there was not much left of the sticker so I ordered a new one), spacing is 130mm, English bb thread, 1 inch threadless headset, bolt on front derailleur and a 27.2 seatpost barely fit in there so I chose a 27.0 seatpost which seems to fit fine.
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Originally Posted by Dutchie020
Last weekend I bought a Duell Pilot frame. Yesterday I received my second hand 2x8 speed Campagnolo Chorus groupset.
Looks nice. Don't know much about Duell.. how does it ride?
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Cool new bikes and members on this feed. Welcome Brands, Dutchie020 and groperfish!
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Got my first track frame. RIH Caballero. Bought it from its 1st owner, Gerard Vianen. Stage winner Tour de France and 2 times stage winner Vuelta. More info about Gerard Vianen at cycling archives Gerard Vianen
He used this one at the Six day championship at the Amsterdam Velodrome in 1967. Also got a nice no-name track cockpit and 2 NOS 151 BCD Campa track rings Finale picture is from Tiemen Groen, but shows complete set up.
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Originally Posted by Woutervanwijk
Got my first track frame. RIH Caballero. Bought it from its 1st owner, Gerard Vianen. Stage winner Tour de France and 2 times stage winner Vuelta. More info about Gerard Vianen at cycling archives Gerard Vianen
He used this one at the Six day championship at the Amsterdam Velodrome in 1967. Also got a nice no-name track cockpit and 2 NOS 151 BCD Campa track rings Finale picture is from Tiemen Groen, but shows complete set up.
that's a magnificent score, with the spare parts and full history and all that. Congratulations!
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Originally Posted by Dutchie020
Last weekend I bought a Duell Pilot frame. Yesterday I received my second hand 2x8 speed Campagnolo Chorus groupset. This is the result:

Wish list: remove the Rigida DP18 stickers, silver stem, headset & spacers.

Does anyone know how old the frame might be? It is made of Columbus Thron (there was not much left of the sticker so I ordered a new one), spacing is 130mm, English bb thread, 1 inch threadless headset, bolt on front derailleur and a 27.2 seatpost barely fit in there so I chose a 27.0 seatpost which seems to fit fine.
That is a nice looking Duell. It would guess it is from around the year 2000.
How does it ride?
I have a 1992 Duell, and I really like the way it feels.
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Originally Posted by groperfish
Looks nice. Don't know much about Duell.. how does it ride?
Originally Posted by paulkal
That is a nice looking Duell. It would guess it is from around the year 2000.
How does it ride?
I have a 1992 Duell, and I really like the way it feels.
Thanks! I really like the look as well. It has some nice details which I forgot to photograph, such as Jan van Dalen's signature on the fork, top tube, bottom bracket and rear brake bridge. I just came back from a 15k test drive around town. It rides beautiful! The short frame steers really well and the frame is really stiff. The 12cm stem feels a bit too long, but I'll have to test that some more.
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Originally Posted by caloso
My Gazelle Champion Mondial AA. I set it up as a fixed gear TT machine for a flat triathlon recently:
The Champ lived up to her name. I had the 9th fastest bike leg over all. It was huge fun to pass a CF tri bike with Zipps.
That is so cool to read. I am finally well on my in building up my AB in 531c, and although only an exercise rider, it's great to know that "The Champ" is in there punching. Congrats! on your success, and more to come! — Lorne
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A FACT ABOUT MY GAZELLE
A Gazelle AB frame in Reynolds 531c (all tubes) and labelled merely "Champion". This indicates that it was for German export. The "Mondial" was dropped due to a branding infringement in Germany at the time.

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During my build (still ongoing) I found that the DT and ST were pinned at the BB shell. Is this common for Gazelle frames? Were some or all AA and/or AB frames pinned? I have four other racing frames and have owned one or two others, but this is the first one I've ever owned that was pinned. The only pinned frames that I have heard of being pinned were specific frames designated for team competition — Services des Courses (For example, some 'watermarked' Vitus 979's were pinned, but mine is a straight production model — jammed and glued.)

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I know this is a 'show and tell thread'. Sorry to bug in here, but I thought if anyone knows the answer to the question on C&V it's you guys. I'll be posting pics and of my build ASAP.
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Please allow me to indulge myself, I've posted this on the forums before but I'm still loving this bike.
Unsure of the model but it's an old joco, 33135, which I rescued from being turned into a fixie.
Totally restored with a few liberties taken, including full NR groupo and regina freewheel.
Decals sourced for me by non fixie.
btw, loving eddievans JOCO











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Old 05-07-14, 11:21 AM
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two marques that are high on my wish list are Joco and Jabo.
that Joco looks like it's too small based on the seatpost and stem.
I could take it off your hands for you since it looks to be about my size.....

again, nice job.
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Good spot, the frame is good for me but the post needs setting up.
Ill give your very generous offer of relieving me of my joco under consideration :-)
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well I tried......
the only other Joco I know of is in Snowshoe WV and belonged
to an old Classic Rendezvous member who I've not seen posting in years.
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Lenton, the pinning was common for the Champion Mondial.

Nice Duell, RIH and Joco

Dutchie020, I think you need a stepped ferule for your rear mech outer. Welcome btw
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Originally Posted by Woutervanwijk
Got my first track frame. RIH Caballero. Bought it from its 1st owner, Gerard Vianen. Stage winner Tour de France and 2 times stage winner Vuelta. More info about Gerard Vianen at cycling archives Gerard Vianen
He used this one at the Six day championship at the Amsterdam Velodrome in 1967. Also got a nice no-name track cockpit and 2 NOS 151 BCD Campa track rings Finale picture is from Tiemen Groen, but shows complete set up.
Wow.
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Here is my Duell frame, ready for its yearly cleaning.
It is a 1992 Columbus SL frame, it was custom made for me. After 22 years and about 100000 km it is still looking good. It does have a few scratches and a little rust but nothing serious.
I even used the bike for a cycling holiday in the UK 10 years ago.
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Impressive stuff, Paul. It was nice to see the bike in action at last years' JZC.
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I will clean the first, and re-paint/re-decal the second, then take better pictures of both in the park or something, but in the mean time here are some pictures of my Dutch bikes, taken with a potato:

Harry Hartman (197X?)

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Jan Janssen Tour de France (197X?)

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Originally Posted by paulkal
Here is my Duell frame, ready for its yearly cleaning.
It is a 1992 Columbus SL frame, it was custom made for me. After 22 years and about 100000 km it is still looking good. It does have a few scratches and a little rust but nothing serious.
I even used the bike for a cycling holiday in the UK 10 years ago.
That's all dirt on that BB shell, right? Would love to see it build up again Paul! I got an extensive look at it's rear at that JZC it sure is well crafted.
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Originally Posted by lotek
two marques that are high on my wish list are Joco and Jabo.
that Joco looks like it's too small based on the seatpost and stem.
I could take it off your hands for you since it looks to be about my size.....

again, nice job.
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hi Marty
happen to have both..what size are you after?
(the JOCO Ronde Van Europa has just been sold but I got a Ronde van Nederland in the same livery but without the chrome parts)


this is another early one I've sold earlier...


resprayed and with mixed set up
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Typically I ride a 55 or 56cm frame. ja I know midget sized especially compared to what the
average Dutch frame size is on Marktplaats (I think 60cm is avg!).

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Originally Posted by lotek
Typically I ride a 55 or 56cm frame. ja I know midget sized especially compared to what the
average Dutch frame size is on Marktplaats (I think 60cm is avg!).

Marty
not all of them are that size
I'll check the Joco but I think it's around 55 cm ...
the Jabo is that size too cause I ride it..

here's a kids size racer(said to be Boogerd's old frame)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/412842...7644767592076/

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Red red RIH

Does anyone know the RAL code of the red color used for RIH?
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Does anyone know the RAL code of the red color used for RIH?
No, but why not shoot them an e-mail: mail@rihsportamsterdam.nl
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It's been a while, but with rain falling from the skies on my day off there's no more excuse not to post my ride from the past RetroRonde van Vlaanderen.

postretroronde1 by Zieleman, on Flickr
I did cheat a little with these superb brakes
postretroronde4 by Zieleman, on Flickr
My drilled levers gave me an aerodynamic advantage
postretroronde5 by Zieleman, on Flickr
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