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Old 06-12-08, 08:35 PM
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Old Raleigh Super Course?

I'm thinking about picking this bike up:


According to the seller, it's a Raleigh Super Course, but the owner knows nothing about it except the chain is broken. Any reason not to pick this up for cheap? She wants $30, which is fine, it's just a bit of a PITA to get to the bike and get it home, so I don't want to waste the trip if the bike is not going to help me. I'm 6'5 and it looks like it'd be right size wise. It looks like the paint scheme is similar to the 1970 catalog photos, but it's hard to see any detail in that poor photo. Anyone have any input on this?
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I like my supercourse.
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Old 06-12-08, 08:51 PM
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plus, it's your size. that's kinda hard to find.
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I've never seen a Super Course - even one in that size frame - with headtube geometry that steep in comparison to the seattube. Give it a GOOD looking over to make sure that the frame does not have front end damage at the headtube/top tube and headtube/downtube joints. Use a ruler to make sure the tubes are not bending downwards.

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cudak: thanks for that info, I will look heavily at the head tube. The largest size I see listed in the Raleigh catalogs that I've seen is 27", so I'm guessing that's what it is. It does seem like a very steep angle. Also, I wish I could tell what is going on with the stem, it looks like there's something extra up there, but this is a lot like a UFO photo.
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Old 06-12-08, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by misterE0 View Post
Also, I wish I could tell what is going on with the stem, it looks like there's something extra up there, but this is a lot like a UFO photo.
Stem shifters.

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Old 06-12-08, 09:25 PM
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I think the fork is bent too.
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I believe that at that time all Supercourses had the same top tube length. That's why larger frames had steeper front fork angles than smaller frame sizes.
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Old 06-12-08, 09:39 PM
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An identical top tube length would suggest that the headtube and seattube angles would have to be either parallel to each other, or the headtube would have to be slacker then the seattube as the size increased.

With that theory, there is no possibility that a machine built with an identical top tube length for all sizes could appear as this example does in the photo. You would have a bike with a 90 degree headtube by the time you got down to 53cm or thereabouts.

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I initially thought stem shifters as well, but it looks like it has down tube shifters. I haven't seen any RC catalog photos with stem shifters, but I'm certainly no expert.
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It has stem shifters--you can see the cable housing running from them. And I've never seen a Super Course in that paint scheme. I'd be skeptical.

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I see what could be downtubes as well, but there are most obviously a pair of stem shifters mounted to that machine, with cables running down from the shifters to boot.

I was about to guess that the shifters at the bottom might be a pump head stop, until I realized that there is a waterbottle cage in the way.

Looks like an interesting one to examine, if nothing else.

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it does look like the fork is bent or the headtube is or something goofy and a bit more than I think I want to get involved with. I think I'll save myself the trip. Thanks for everyone's input.
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