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wayne pattee 06-21-08 12:30 PM

Need some info on a Peugeot please
 
Just wondering if anyone had any info or if there is a website with info on this bike. Couldn't find enough info.
The number on the BB is Y2070743
and a sticker with clear tape over it is 2341147
and PH12 60
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/...655b35bece.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/...7e4db518c1.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3282/...5d36f629bc.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/...53c58067e9.jpg
Thanks
Wayne

John E 06-21-08 12:43 PM

It is the PH12 model, in the 60cm frame size. Both longer numbers are consistent with the initial digit of the serial number being the last digit of the year of manufacture (1982, in your case). It looks like a decent enough bottom-of-the-line Peugeot, in the UO-8 tradition, but with a few improvements, such as aluminum cranks.

wayne pattee 06-21-08 01:46 PM

Thanks John.
What caught my eye was the internal cable routing and the oval tubing.
I'm gonna fix it up and ride it.

miamijim 06-21-08 02:06 PM

Thats Peugeots 100th anniversary model. It was produced from 1982-1984. It was only called an 'anniversary' model in 1982.

I'll disagree with John and say its 'considerably' better than a run of the mill UO8, 9 or 10. Standard equiptment are CLB brakes, Simplex Super LJ derailleurs and decent quality 700c wheels. It has unique shift levers. As you shift across the gears out back the front derailleur automaticly trims to help prevent chain rub on the front derailleur. It also has a decent quality SR crank.

mines almost done....

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...s/DSC00425.jpg

wayne pattee 06-21-08 04:10 PM

Thanks for the info miamijim.
Thats a good lookin bike you got there.
I picked mine up this morning at a garage sale for $5
All the parts are good, just gonna take it apart and clean and lube everything.
New cables and it needs new brake hoods.

T-Mar 06-22-08 05:44 AM

I'm going to tread the water between John and Jim. The big advantage over the U-series was the 700C wheelset. That, in addition to the lugless construction saved a couple of pounds. It was Peugeot's base racing model, while the UO10 was an upper, sports/touring model.

The one area where I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with Jim is regarding the derailleur. They were not the top line SLJ but the standard offering SX410, according to my literature.

At $5.00 you got a super bargain.

wayne pattee 06-22-08 11:22 AM

Anyone know where I can get replacement brake lever hoods for this bike?
Also, How do I re-string the internal cables after I remove them? Maybe leave some tie wire through the tubes?
This bike is gonna be fun to fix up.

miamijim 06-22-08 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 6923486)
I'm going to tread the water between John and Jim. The big advantage over the U-series was the 700C wheelset. That, in addition to the lugless construction saved a couple of pounds. It was Peugeot's base racing model, while the UO10 was an upper, sports/touring model.

The one area where I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with Jim is regarding the derailleur. They were not the top line SLJ but the standard offering SX410, according to my literature.

At $5.00 you got a super bargain.

Tom,

The rear derailleur on the OP's bike is a SX610 which is a Super LJ, while the front is a SJA222CX. If you go through the specs it has Mavic rims, and a stem/bar combination identical to the the PSV/PX10 models


Originally Posted by wayne pattee (Post 6924506)
Anyone know where I can get replacement brake lever hoods for this bike?
Also, How do I re-string the internal cables after I remove them? Maybe leave some tie wire through the tubes?
This bike is gonna be fun to fix up.

Wayne,

Hoods are very difficult to find, I've been looking for a year.

To replace the cables....

1. Loosen brake levers but do not remove them
2. Disconnect inner wire at the caliper and pull it out through the brake lever. DO NOT move or remove the outer housing!!!
3. Install new inner wire.
4. Pull outer housings out of the handle bar and frame from the caliper end.
5. Install new housings from the caliper end.

wayne pattee 06-22-08 01:33 PM

Thats kind of what I thought on the cable replacement.
Makes it tough if a guy wants to get the frame painted.

miamijim 06-22-08 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by wayne pattee (Post 6925058)
Thats kind of what I thought on the cable replacement.
Makes it tough if a guy wants to get the frame painted.

Thats easy to. Use a magnet to guide the inner wire.....

T-Mar 06-23-08 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by miamijim (Post 6924984)
Tom,

The rear derailleur on the OP's bike is a SX610 which is a Super LJ, while the front is a SJA222CX. If you go through the specs it has Mavic rims, and a stem/bar combination identical to the the PSV/PX10 models

Sorry, you're right, it's the better SX610 model. But that's still not an SLJ. The only 1982 model to spec an SLJ was the Pro10, which used the old SLJ 5500 in the back. The new generation, horizontal parallelogram SLJ rear derailleur was the SLJ6600. Peugeot did not spec it until the 1983 PY10FC.



Originally Posted by wayne pattee (Post 6924984)
Thats kind of what I thought on the cable replacement.
Makes it tough if a guy wants to get the frame painted.

When repainting a frame or replacing the cable housing, the trick is to insert the inner cable without the housing. Run the inner cable through the frame. When the end reachs the exit hole, hook it with the end of a spoke to pull it out. Now install the cable housing by sliding it over the end of the already installed inner cable.

miamijim 06-23-08 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 6928408)
Sorry, you're right, it's the better SX610 model. But that's still not an SLJ. The only 1982 model to spec an SLJ was the Pro10, which used the old SLJ 5500 in the back. The new generation, horizontal parallelogram SLJ rear derailleur was the SLJ6600. Peugeot did not spec it until the 1983 PY10FC.

Ummm....yes, it is. I do apologoze for the typo as the derailleur is a SX660

The following Simplex drailleurs are SLJ's (there could be more)

615
SX660
5500
6600


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...7/DSC00232.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...7/DSC00234.jpg

T-Mar 06-24-08 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by miamijim (Post 6928436)
Ummm....yes, it is. I do apologoze for the typo as the derailleur is a SX660

The following Simplex drailleurs are SLJ's (there could be more)

615
SX660
5500
6600

OK, but the SX660 is not the catalog spec derailleur for the 1982 PH12. The spec derailleur is an SX610 and, if I recall correctly, there was lots of Delrin and steel in the parallelogram arms on that model. The SX660 would be a substantial upgrade over the SX610, if Peugeot made a substitution. It would be interesting to know if the OP has the catalog spec SX610 or an SX660.

BTW, Simplex missed out on a real marketing opportunity by not naming the SX660 an SLJ6500 or something similar to denote that it was an SLJ series derailleur. That's unfortunate because they were great performing derailleurs, especially when paired with the retro-friction levers.

wayne pattee 06-25-08 04:57 PM

Here's a picture of my rear deraileur
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/...78f647b64b.jpg

miamijim 06-25-08 05:37 PM

Tom,

Your right, they really did miss out. It gives a better glimpse into the French bicycle industry!!

Wayne,

Obviously a replacement, but a good replacement!!!


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