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Rivendell bar-end shifter pods--what lever fit?

Old 06-24-08, 02:22 PM
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Rivendell bar-end shifter pods--what lever fit?

So I bought a set of Rivendell bar-end shifter pods, hoping to make them work with some old Shimano 600 indexed downtube shifters. No go. I also tried other shifters in my parts bin, all friction, none seemed to fit right.

Can anyone offer advice on what shifter levers they've gotten to work with those pods?

Thanks,

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Suntour Sprint retro-friction shifters work; the Rivendell silver shifters are a licensed copy of these.
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Old 06-24-08, 03:07 PM
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The pods are licensed copies of Shimano parts. Simplex Retrofrictions will fit with some modifications.
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I was going to try my Suntour DT shifters in my old Suntour pods; has anyone else tried this?

I was hoping the added leverage would make for a better shift, but maybe it will not work at all.
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Old 06-24-08, 03:50 PM
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Sun tour stem shifer friction levers off an old Takara worked for me.
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Originally Posted by yohannrjm View Post
I was going to try my Suntour DT shifters in my old Suntour pods; has anyone else tried this?

I was hoping the added leverage would make for a better shift, but maybe it will not work at all.
Only if your DT shifters are "Power" shifters. I was actually going to do a little tutorial on this some time since you do get better leverage and to some the longer levers are more aesthetically pleasing. Keep in mind though that you might have to consider shortening your bar a little if you are an aggressive rider to avoid hitting your legs on the shifters on out of the saddle sprints and climbs.
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Old 06-24-08, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by leecycle View Post
Suntour Sprint retro-friction shifters work; the Rivendell silver shifters are a licensed copy of these.
These are made by Dia-Compe and I suspect that Dia-Compe actually made the originals as well. Could be wrong, but since they were in JEX with SunTour and built many other SunTour branded components, it would make sense. Hence it's most likely the original tooling.

I think any of the SunTour shifters of the era will work on those pods. I love the SunTour Sprint retrofrictions/Dia Compe/Rivedell Silvers, though. They are awesome.

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The best friction levers ever made, but I don't like the Shimano logos on the pods. Grinding them off removes too much material, I tried it. I may have to break down and buy the Riv. pods.

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You can use your 600 indexed shifters with these pods.
You need the flat sided "lever boss" adapter that Shimano uses for DT shifters on oversized Al. frames.
It's the same thing Shimano uses on their bar-ends, between the lever and the "pod".
I've got a pair that I was saving for just such a project but it ain't gonna happen anytime soon so let me know if you want them, and if I can find them their yours.
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Old 06-24-08, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MalcolmsFrejus View Post
You can use your 600 indexed shifters with these pods.
You need the flat sided "lever boss" adapter that Shimano uses for DT shifters on oversized Al. frames.
It's the same thing Shimano uses on their bar-ends, between the lever and the "pod".
I've got a pair that I was saving for just such a project but it ain't gonna happen anytime soon so let me know if you want them, and if I can find them their yours.
If I understand what you're talking about, it's part of the pod.
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Neal, Shimano 600 levers don't fit a Campy-standard (square) boss, and I think that the pods you have want a shifter lever that fits the Campy boss. Though I haven't seen the adapter that MalcomsFrejus mentioned, I do have such an adapter for a round downtube, that mediates between the Campy boss and the S600 lever. My advice would be to use Campy-style (Suntour, Simplex, just about everyone except those weird Shimano years) levers.
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Now that you mention it, Charles, all of the levers I tried were Shimano!

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I'm running one with 6/7 speed Suntour (Cyclone) friction/index levers. I've bought two more to use with another Suntour set and a cheap 7 speed friction/index Shimano set.
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop View Post
If I understand what you're talking about, it's part of the pod.
The shimano "pods" have a square boss built into the pod. The part I'm talking about is the "boss adapter" which on round/standard frames is curved on the frame side, for AL/oversize frames it's flat.
It goes between the lever and the frame stud to allow Shimano DT shifters to fit the Italian boss.
It actually looks like part of the lever.
In this picture http://www.rivbike.com/products/list...product=17-068
you would remove the washer with the square hole and put the adapter in it's place, then the levers.
The adapter has the "key" that on DT mounting must sit in line with the frame, facing toward the head tube
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You can get quite a few to fit. For some you will need to isolate the shifters with a spacer ring covering around the square boss base of the pods, and you will need to make sure you use the proper base mount friction washers for the newer style Suntour Power Shifters (like the Rivendell copies) and on some simple friction shifters.

The Shimano 600s went through an odd evolution, with some requiring unique mounts unlike any others (either then or now) so that may be the problem adapting those. Basically anything which will fit a standard Shimano, Suntour or Campy style boss should work... and if you're clever [Bravo Dirtdrop!] even the Simplex retrofriction can be made to fit... that is, if yours have the correct core diameters [they had made different variations, intended to fit different bikes].

I agree that the Shimano logo on theirs is rather ugly, but overall the pods can be made to look pretty nice. Here is a set of battered ones which I "Salvaged" and mixed with Suntour 4850 Sprint shifters:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/strongl...296024/detail/
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I had a pair of old Suntour friction levers, non-ratchet, that wouldn't fit. 5 minutes work on the pods with a dremel tool, and the combo works perfectly now.
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Bringing this thread back to life. Anyone know whether 1st-generation Dura Ace DT shifters will fit?
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