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A (South African?) 1978 Raleigh DL-1 comes to visit (Lots of pics)

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A (South African?) 1978 Raleigh DL-1 comes to visit (Lots of pics)

Hello all,

I met a local gentleman today (through The Headbadge) with a most interesting DL-1 that he purchased new - in 1980 - while in Nassau.

It is one of those unique examples that is most certainly not of Nottingham descent. Not a single part of it is entirely identical to the components from the DL-1s from the Nottingham facilities - right down to the paint job, which is slightly thicker then the Nottingham paint of the 1970's.

It in itself is a 1978 (or early '79, due to the December "S" date code) machine, but there are no indications, decal-wise, as to the location of manufacture. Serial number is of the final system that was used after 1973, in this case, the serial sits to the left side of the seat tube - KS800042.

Anyone know what the K stands for? I'm putting a very uneducated guess towards Raleigh's South African facilities, because it is the only Raleigh factory of my knowledge that I do NOT have on my serial number chart for this era. Anyone else have a "K" serial Raleigh?

I was given the privilege to photograph this machine for future reference of Raleigh roadster production - below are the photos:

Full 3/4 shot:


Chaincase, which is slightly slimmer and differers in proportions slightly from Nottingham chaincases:


Saddle and aftermarket rack:


Fork/headtube:


Front brake:


Headtube:


Rear fender (Reflector original to original purchase in 1980, apparently):


Headbadge closeup:


Seattube decal (Differing from both the U.S. Rampar "R" logo, and the Nottingham export decal with a large Sir Walter):


Sir Walter logo at the pedal end of the crankset, not at the edge of the spindle):


5 more photos to come.

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-Kurt
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Second photo set:

Rear dropout:


Original Raleigh Roadster tires marked "Foreign" in place of the usual "Made In Austria" as one would find on machines from Nottingham:


Singlespeed rear hub with Sir Walter:


Original pump:


Rims stamped "Raleigh" quite unlike any rims from Nottingam . Note that the factory that produced this machine still uses the 32/40 pattern as opposed to the 36/40 used on the post '73 machines from Nottingham:


The all important serial. Sitting to the left side of the tube as opposed to at the rear of the frame as on the Nottingham machines:


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I,m no expert cudak but could it be "Indian" ?
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Originally Posted by ozneddy
I,m no expert cudak but could it be "Indian" ?
Don't know if Raleigh had an authorized factory in India during the time period. As no documentation seems to exist, I'm hoping that someone else with a Raleigh from one of the factories not listed on the publicized charts might be able to confirm the "K" location with a matching sticker indicating location of licensed manufacture.

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Can you please e- mail photographs of the South African Raleigh bike to me? The site here only has an annoying ad for Walt Disney World with goofy in a hammock!

thanks, christopherrobin

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Christopher, I've fixed the links in the original posts. The photos should now be visible.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
Christopher, I've fixed the links in the original posts. The photos should now be visible.

-Kurt
Thanks. I got to see it.

If it were from South Africa the head badge would be smaller and say Springs, South Africa literally on the headbadge in place of the words Nottingham, England. I have no idea about the serial numbers. There were Two African factories and they closed one and opened another in Springs. The Africa bikes had different tires very much more baloon ish. These rims are Sturmey- Archer or Raleigh from England and while they are ok and work well they are not the nicest I have seen in finish or quality, and they look newer than the rest of the bike. This silver backed, Raleigh heron headbadge went away in favor of a brass backed one in 1960- 1963 in there. This bike has the earlier badge it what I am saying.

This bike was made in Nottingham who supplied CKD kits for foreign markets the bike came packed in crates and were "completely knocked down" meaning they had to be assembled on site. Single speed for a foreign market where the Sturmey Archer 3 speed was not used because a single speed was easier to pedal and was more reliable and also for cost reasons it was cheaper and simple. We see a lot of single speed bikes in these areas. Most interesting is the headset in this bike. I have never seen a headset like this one! Not ever . I wonder what thread pitch it is. because I have never seen either a Phillips 24 t.p.i OR a Raleigh 26 t.p.i..

While it is possible to take it apart and re- grease it and put it back together. I would not loose any of the parts because I have no idea where to replace that headset from any source on the planet. Not that anybody would loose any of those parts anyways.

This throws the origin of the bottom bracket cups in doubt too. The badge tells me it is pre merger with the B.C.C./ PHILLIPS - RALEIGH MERGER IN 1960 but the rims say 1970
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Well, after 2 1/2 hours of typing, working on this reply.. some idiotic computer glitch has failed to upload the rest of my article on this bike, leaving most of my reply missing. I am going to eat something and get back to finishing this article later on. Chris
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