Pinarello ID
 

Bulgier.net has been down for the last few days, so I need some help with some questions I have about this Pinarello. I believe it has complete Super Record group and I have been told it is 1984 vintage. I have questions about the bike because I have never seen a Pinarello of this age have decals in this condition, so the first thing that comes to mind is whether this might be a repaint. So I was hoping some of you might inspect the frame pics and tell me if you think this is original paint or not. Along those same lines I am curious as to the fact that this bike does not have a model name on the top tube. Is that unusual or normal for a Pinarello? I'm thinking this might be a Montello since it has Columbus SLX tubing along with Super Record, but I'd like to get some confirmation since I can't evaluate the catalogs on Bulgier's site. Notice that under the Columbus sticker on the seat tube pic is the inscription "VINCITRICE Vuelta D'Espana e Giro D'Italia" whatever that means.
Here are the pics....

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I think it's a Montello too: chroming, BB reinforcement, no chainstay bridge.
"Vincitrice" means winner in Italian (feminine, as in "la bicicletta").

Nice looking bike, seems to be all Campy SR except headset, which *may* be C-Record. Looks to be in excellent condition, looks like it has tubulars. Probably worth about what you sold me the De Rosa for.

Good Luck!

Except this is in my size and actually asking a little less than the DeRosa. It does have sew ups. So you think the paint and decals are original?

Hard to say, I've never seen intact, original, Pinarello decals in over 20 years. :lol:
I would guess that is more like an 1985-86 model, from the internal cabling. but my knowledge of Pinarello's is on the short side.

It's amazingly similar in many ways to the 1997 Pinarello Vuelta I acquired recently and then equipped with 2009 10 speed Campy Centaur. But my '97 is built from Pinarello ARX steel tubing, which was made by Dedacciai for Pinarello.

Lugwork and graphics are very, very similar, internal cable routing on the top tube on mine as well. The color on mine is a rather electric blue paint with the white graphics. The model name "Vuelta" is on the top tube, near the head tube. It's cool to see a bike like yours that's quite a few years older than mine, and yet looks so incredibly similar to my Pinarello from the late '90's (I originally thought mine was quite a bit older than it is). There's not a whole lot of info out there on the Vuelta model.

My fork only has chrome on the crown, the rest is painted, and only the driveside chainstay is chromed, the other is painted. The stock complete bike came with nine speed Campy Chorus, Campy tubular wheels, and Cinelli stem/bars, but mine was apparently built up from a bare frame and had a Shimano 600 drivetrain (a mix of '96 and '97 parts from what I can tell). I stripped it of the Shimano stuff and replaced it with the Campy group, added Cinelli stem/bars/white bar tape, built wheels with Campy Centaur hubs laced to Mavic Open Pro rims, put a Selle San Marco Concor (white) on it, and have what I consider a dream bike. I don't think I should call it vintage, but it definitely has the look of a classic-

it looks similar to the 1987 model shown on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinarello

doesn't say anything on the top tube by he head tube. Seems like the decals there would have been as pristine as teh rest.
Looks like a very nice bike. What could be better than SLX with beautiful paint and chrome like that?

I should have read the text first! Look at the rims, doesn't seem to be much wear at all from my eye. who cares if it is a repaint? looks like they put all the stickrs on right, other than model. Very nice!! even the seatpost looks great.
what are the handle bars?

and old-new looking pedals!

Thats a mighty fine lookin bicycle !

Only difference I can see is the OP's has chromed seatstay caps. But that frame is probably fully chromed, then painted over chrome.

I don't believe this is actually a Pinarello as witnessed by decals that are actually readable. :p

It is a Montello. A tell-tale is the bridgeless bottom bracket and the chrome. Exactly like mine.

** Be very careful not to tighten the seat post bolt too much on these bad boys. The bold screws into the frame and, when over-tightened, will strip the frame! Doh! **

GG

Also the brake cable routing through the top tube is Montello. Thanks for the heads up on the seat bolt. I just bought the bike and I'll be sure to check that out when it arrives. Here are a couple additional pics...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/...28205f80_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/...e7362e42_o.jpg

Wise purchase, an absolutely stunning bike, and everyone knows, red bikes are faster.

Same style as my Montello except mine has internal shifter cabling too but that was a special order I did directly from Giovanni himself back in the 80's. My decals are almost all gone. I would be surprised if that wasn't a re-paint. It is one beautiful bike.

Really nice Pinarello!

My around '96 Asolo has a separate seatpost nut in a recess.

Mine has internal rear brake cable routing too, but the cable enters the underside of the TT at the front and exits at its top at the rear.

Original, intact Pinarello decals...
 

OFG: now you have ('89 model). Then again, that's 19 years :innocent:
guygadois: some original decals stayed on, I guess as the riders stayed off.

I think his is an '84-'86.

Note on the '89, the SLX decal has the SLX under the bird. Earlier versions had it above the bird, I think.
I'm sure there are some CnV guys w/Columbus tubing that may be able to track the decal change.
If they are original.

In what year did Pinarello replace the metal riveted headbadge for a decal? This could be a clue.

Go to velospace.org, look for Zephyrus. He's the Pin guy there.
I think you have an '84 to '86, maybe an '87.
During one of those years, they went from metallic to bright red.
If those are original decals, in that condition, you may have the only one like that.
Get them clearcoated ASAP if you want them to stay that way.

And try not to sweat on the paint, or it's gone, too.
A beautiful bike.

I just know after 1989. I saw a blue '93 not long ago, aluminum, and it had a decal.

Just saw a photo of a '92 Montello w/metal headbadge.

I don't know, but the '97 Pinarello Vuelta I described in my post has the exact headbadge as the OP's bike-

I haven't seen any time when they switched outright to decals. In some years they offered both. My Montello from 1985 has a decal.

As an interesting aside, the Montello model was released in 1985 (I believe) and was named for a city in the providence of Treviso, Montello, where the 1985 Cycling World Championships took place.

No, it was certainly before 1984. My Record Equipe is an '84 (purchased new by me) and has a headtube decal, not a badge- but the decal has held up lots better than the other decals (which have chipped off terribly). Also, my bike never had a decal on the top tube denoting the model, so not all Pinarello's had that.

BEAUTIFUL bike, by the way! Agree that it is certainly a Montello, probably mid 80's. VINCITRICE Vuelta D'Espana e Giro D'Italia means "victor of the Tour of Spain and the Tour of Italy".