Tommasini: I hate Drew more than words can tell
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I think getting the frame repainted by the retired factory painter is FAR more original than having it redone by Tommasini USA. A factory repaint would still lose value no matter what. But having the original painter (or at least a guy who was painting those frames at that time, even if the guy next to him painted that specific frame) would be of no detriment to value, maybe even boosting it.
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Since the reemergence of this thread I guess I could give an up-date on the Drew bike.
I contacted two local frame-builders who said they would be willing to give it a try but said most likely they'd mess up the frame. That didn't give me much confidence but both are small timers who have built 20-25 frames between the two and don't do much repair work. I think I'm going to hold off for someone a little more experienced.
On a positive note I have procured a nearly complete C-record group to go on the bike, minus deltas but still searching... I also am on the hunt for a fork. Ive been watching ebay for months and a fork finally came up for sale recently but its too small for my 59cm.
Part of me wants to keep the bike as is, as a testament to the "drew" lore and deterrent for future evil doers. But really I'd just like a nice Tommasini with full C-record...
I contacted two local frame-builders who said they would be willing to give it a try but said most likely they'd mess up the frame. That didn't give me much confidence but both are small timers who have built 20-25 frames between the two and don't do much repair work. I think I'm going to hold off for someone a little more experienced.
On a positive note I have procured a nearly complete C-record group to go on the bike, minus deltas but still searching... I also am on the hunt for a fork. Ive been watching ebay for months and a fork finally came up for sale recently but its too small for my 59cm.
Part of me wants to keep the bike as is, as a testament to the "drew" lore and deterrent for future evil doers. But really I'd just like a nice Tommasini with full C-record...
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I think getting the frame repainted by the retired factory painter is FAR more original than having it redone by Tommasini USA. A factory repaint would still lose value no matter what. But having the original painter (or at least a guy who was painting those frames at that time, even if the guy next to him painted that specific frame) would be of no detriment to value, maybe even boosting it.
BTW, it's: Guerilla
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Lots of luck on the fork. But fyi the MSRP on a chromed "Air" fork from Tommasini is $267. Actually, thats not bad, considering its a factory Tommasini fork.
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This is absolutely the worst thing about the fixed gear trend. I blame Fixed Gear Gallery for encouraging everyone to hack up vintage road bikes in order to have "clean lines" or whatever nonsense they're hoping for.
The sad thing is how many more of these frames we're all going to see as this trend starts to pass and the bikes enter the used market again.
The sad thing is how many more of these frames we're all going to see as this trend starts to pass and the bikes enter the used market again.
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telling someone you are going to "clean their clock" is a threat of violence. Should I close this thread?
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I was joking, forgot the smiley.
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Please dont drew this thread. It's zombie ressurections are amusing.
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Is this where it all started?
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This is where it all started. I still have the frame, I cant seem to bring myself to get rid of it. There has been some inquiries about the actual Drew. I bought the frame from a guy who bought the remaining stock of a closing local bike shop. So my guess is someone (I guess it could be someone besides Drew) hacked up the frame and then the bike shop somehow ended up with it. I suppose Drew could have been a former owner and not necessarily the one who messed up the frame...
Sorry to disappoint. I wish I could tell you all that I met Drew and given a description of the infamous bike mutilator, but I cant.
I'm still mulling around the idea of whether I should fix the frame or not? Its funny because I was at my LBS a while back and one of the mechanics, who doesn't know about my Tommassini, used the term Drewed. Somehow the bike is the epicenter and poster-child of the dismembered bike movement. Perhaps Ill keep it just the way is is in homage to the term.
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Sorry to disappoint. I wish I could tell you all that I met Drew and given a description of the infamous bike mutilator, but I cant.
I'm still mulling around the idea of whether I should fix the frame or not? Its funny because I was at my LBS a while back and one of the mechanics, who doesn't know about my Tommassini, used the term Drewed. Somehow the bike is the epicenter and poster-child of the dismembered bike movement. Perhaps Ill keep it just the way is is in homage to the term.
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I think I know where he lives.......
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I had a Gios Compact Pro that had been Drew'd. The owner was proud of the fact that he had the dropouts replaced with track ends, and had all of the brazeons chopped off. I couldn't figure out what to do with it, and didn't want to sink $400 into a repair and repaint (they're still available new for $950) so I sold it to a kid for $100. Sadly, I doubt he'll do anything better to it.
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By the way, the term 'clean your clock' is classic and vintage slang:
https://www.word-detective.com/092403.html
To begin at the beginning, "clock" has been slang for the human face since the mid-nineteenth century, based on its supposed resemblance to the face of a clock. "Clock" as a verb has also been slang for "to punch in the face or strike violently" since the early 20th century, again based on the clock-face metaphor.
Elsewhere in the world of fisticuffs, according to the Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, "clean" has been slang for "vanquish" since the early 19th century. The Random House dictionary also lists "fix someone's clock" as a slang term for "to finish someone," first attributed to the writer O. Henry in 1908. Curiously, the first citation for the whole phrase "clean someone's clock" comes only in 1959, but we can assume it had been around for awhile before that.
Even with all this evidence tying faces and punches together, I must say that there is another possible source for "clean someone's clock." In railroad slang, an engineer who applies the train's air brakes in an emergency is said to "clean the clock" or "wipe the gauge" as the speedometer needle drops to zero. It seems logical that such a graphic metaphor would be the perfect way to describe stopping an opponent in his tracks, and even if this is not the source of the phrase, it may have contributed to its popularization.
Elsewhere in the world of fisticuffs, according to the Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, "clean" has been slang for "vanquish" since the early 19th century. The Random House dictionary also lists "fix someone's clock" as a slang term for "to finish someone," first attributed to the writer O. Henry in 1908. Curiously, the first citation for the whole phrase "clean someone's clock" comes only in 1959, but we can assume it had been around for awhile before that.
Even with all this evidence tying faces and punches together, I must say that there is another possible source for "clean someone's clock." In railroad slang, an engineer who applies the train's air brakes in an emergency is said to "clean the clock" or "wipe the gauge" as the speedometer needle drops to zero. It seems logical that such a graphic metaphor would be the perfect way to describe stopping an opponent in his tracks, and even if this is not the source of the phrase, it may have contributed to its popularization.
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Hahaha that is so cool to find out the source of that term. I have heard it a few times.
Ever her the term Wenzel?
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The Thread that started it if you have a couple hours. Fair warning Pirate is anything but PC.
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Ever her the term Wenzel?
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I had a run in with Charlie on some fuel injection parts when I moderated CK5.com before he became famous as a result of screwing over Mike on Pirate. I managed to get his old man on the phone and get my issue resolved. Charlie didn't learn and kept on his dishonest ways and messed up at Pirate.
The Thread that started it if you have a couple hours. Fair warning Pirate is anything but PC.
https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399203
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The Thread that started it if you have a couple hours. Fair warning Pirate is anything but PC.
https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399203
https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399203
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...a bit late, but I can't believe the Germans on this board didn't call you on this...you've fallen into a classic trap of trying to translate something too literally here, and used the wrong meaning of 'fixed' to boot. You tried to translate 'fixed' meaning 'repaired' rather than 'fixed' meaning 'permanently set to a specific value'. We're talking about 'fixed gear'; that would be 'fixed' in the second meaning; therefore 'single-speed'...that would be 'Einzelgang' or 'Eingang' in German (don't need to try to translate 'fixed gear' literally, since they already have a couple of perfectly serviceable words for it)...
...and I would hardly call a bike that has been hacked up 'fixed' (as in 'repaired')!...
...and I would hardly call a bike that has been hacked up 'fixed' (as in 'repaired')!...
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For the sake of completeness, the German term for fixed gear is „starren Gang“ but in common parlance you're more likely to hear the English terms „fixed gear“ or „Fixie“.
From Wikipedia: Ist kein Freilauf vorhanden, spricht man von einem „starren Gang“ oder „fixed gear“. Umgangssprachlich wird dafür häufig das Modewort „Fixie“ benutzt.