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gr23932 11-26-08 06:17 PM

Another Unknown????
 
I posted this a while ago (don't remember where) but never really got to work on it since I've been busy with other projects. I finally got a Victory RD to replace the cheap one it has now. :rolleyes: I thought since I was going to try to get a matching RD for the Crankset I might as well find out what it is. So what is guys? I hate not knowing what it is :notamused:. It rides beautifully and it fits like a glove.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/...c9276b95_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/...420cc8f138.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/...571febe020.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/...843c416506.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/...8c441c5c5b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/...8aece9efcd.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/...0c3116e988.jpg

cudak888 11-26-08 06:23 PM

You can ship that "cheap one" that was on it along with the Rossin... :p

-Kurt

gr23932 11-26-08 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 7923839)
You can ship that "cheap one" that was on it along with the Rossin... :p

-Kurt

NO buddy. That RD is going on the Rauler. It's getting a special touch to it; Drillium.;) SOOOOOOOOOO what's up with my Aleyska?? ;)

cudak888 11-26-08 08:31 PM

Drillum, eh? Get a gander of the RD second on the left here:

http://www.jaysmarine.com/CampyDerailer_Display1.jpg

Does it make me officially evil?

The Alyeska is scheduled to get packed December 2nd - the day after University finals...

-Kurt

luker 11-26-08 11:05 PM

geez, a lighted showcase, Kurt?

cudak888 11-26-08 11:26 PM

Yep, used to be for 1:18 scale automobiles. Serves the components even better then the cars now, though I miss the days when that top shelf was nothing but Campag derailers from one end to the other. Now only the Zeus 2000 and a graphite-finish '88 Victory RD (from Gilberto, incidentally), sit there amongst other Campag parts. Looked far better when it was solely an RD lineup.

-Kurt

luker 11-27-08 12:31 AM

bikes are better for you than scale models (I used to sniff testors regularly, myself).

cudak888 11-27-08 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by luker (Post 7925334)
bikes are better for you than scale models (I used to sniff testors regularly, myself).

Forget it - I'm back into the model railroading scene again. Scratchbuilding, no less. Devcon's Plastic Welder makes Testors enamel paints pale in comparison.

-Kurt

yepyep 11-27-08 01:01 AM

Remember when Testors glue smelled pleasantly of citrus? That was a bad marketing decision...

cudak888 11-27-08 01:10 AM

Don't remind me of the blue-tubed "non-toxic" tubes. Still have half a dozen of them, and I found that their best use was in the capacity of melting plastic far more then intended, while simultaneously failing to bond the two surfaces to satisfaction.

-Kurt

yepyep 11-27-08 01:16 AM

Was the citrus stuff in blue tubes? I was in second grade at the time so I don't really recall. However, I do remember a P-51 model being melted away by my inept glue-handling hands.

cudak888 11-27-08 01:55 AM

Both tubes smelled, but the blue non-toxic stuff particularly stunk of oranges, while the orange tube smelled more of typical glue contents/solvents/etc.

Melted P-51? Citrus? Scale napalm.

-Kurt

yepyep 11-27-08 02:13 AM

I guess a melted f4 phantom would have been more apropos.

soderbiker 11-27-08 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by luker (Post 7925140)
geez, a lighted showcase, Kurt?


Geesh
+1

. Nice kurt, love the drillium RD. who took the drill to it ?
:)
T

pastorbobnlnh 11-27-08 05:48 AM

... and gr23932's bike still remains a mystery. Time to put the glue, models, and plastics away boys!

cudak888 11-27-08 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by soderbiker (Post 7925570)
Nice kurt, love the drillium RD. who took the drill to it ?

Search me - I found it at the LBS like that. It isn't even a first-gen SR - it is a second-gen with a NR plate installed on it, and an NR pulley cage. I've since changed the pulley cage to a proper second-gen SR piece.

-Kurt

unworthy1 11-27-08 11:53 AM

as far as the *bike* goes: it could be any of a dozen makes: what about the BB threading (Ital?) and the steerer tube (rifled)?

luker 11-27-08 12:23 PM

my gut says that it is italian. there is a small sticker back by the rear derailleur and one below the shifters on the downtube. What are these?

oh, and whatever it is, it is probably a good one. Number tabs don't tell you anything much about a junior's bike, but this is pretty clearly an adult frame, and is more than likely built out of good stuff.

I'd betcha it is a repaint (also a very good one), based on the generic stickers.

USAZorro 11-27-08 12:50 PM

Serial number or stampings on the BB?

USAZorro 11-27-08 01:15 PM

Lugs and fork crown look very similar to Raleigh Professional, but the rear brake bridge cooks that thought. That brake bridge is the key to IDing the frame IMO.

unworthy1 11-28-08 03:16 AM

afraid the brake bridge is not anything distinctive: it's a standard Italian item used on many makes. Without something stamped, pierced or pantographed there's not much to go on, here.

USAZorro 11-28-08 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 7929177)
afraid the brake bridge is not anything distinctive: it's a standard Italian item used on many makes. Without something stamped, pierced or pantographed there's not much to go on, here.

That bridge and lug combination is telling though. We can eliminate Cinelli, Colnago, Pogliaghi, and a few other Italian makes because none of them use that style of windowing. In fact, the only bicycle I found with those lugs on it is the Raleigh Professional/Team Professional - but the brake bridge is wrong for those.

gr23932 11-28-08 05:39 PM

Sorry for the lag, just got back from Germany. The Bb threading is British. There is no serial number on the BB nor any markings. I haven't removed the fork yet but I will tomorrow. The brake bridge looks a lot like the one on my Guerciotties, but it's no Guerciotti. All the decals are Campagnolo. I guess the previous owner wanted to make sure everyone knew what his bike had. He tried convincing me it was a Colnago but that was an easy NO. It was repainted by his kid's 14 year old friend as a practice test run before painting his caferacer. The kid really did a good job. There are varies paintchips on it now from being leaned on walls and such. I'll report back tomorrow once I remove the Fork.

unworthy1 11-29-08 11:25 AM

Based on info so far I'd guess it's Belgian or possibly Dutch.

Oldpeddaller 11-29-08 12:33 PM

Painted by a 14 year-old? Send that kid around here to earn some pocket money!!! Plenty of work for him in my shed if that's what a damaged practice paint job looks like!

I suppose HE doesn't remember what it looked like before repaint?

Kurt, do I understand correctly, that it's possible to fit a Nuovo Record sideplate to a Super Record rear derailleur? I've got a good spare SR with a scratched up sideplate and am currently looking for a NR in good condition/cheap price for a build. I'm pretty sure one of my friends may still have a broken NR with clean sideplate I could swap a pair of bars for, so if this can be done, problem solved! If it can be done, is it difficult and what's needed? New pivot pins, etc? Would appreciate any advice.

Stuart


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