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Old 12-01-08, 02:09 AM
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Shimano Sante BB Spindle Length

i've been wanting to install Shimano Sante double cranks i got off the 'Bay, but after discovering that my bottom bracket was shot, i decided i should look into a new one...but i'm not sure what spindle length to use. Sheldon Brown didn't have anything to say about Sante in his table, and interpolating from components of a similar era, i got a range of anywhere from 109mm to maybe 113mm.

so does anyone have any insight? or...will it really matter in the end?
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It takes whatever a 600 or Dura Ace of the same vintage would take.
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
It takes whatever a 600 or Dura Ace of the same vintage would take.
mmk...i figured as much. so the range i got from 109mm to 112mm was from 600 and DA of the approximate era (respectively). will it make a huge difference which length i use?
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Originally Posted by twentyflights View Post
mmk...i figured as much. Will it make a huge difference which length i use?
Yes.......If it's on the short side you risk not having enough clearance for the crankarms or rings to clear the chainstays. I'd try for 110 and then shim with a Sturmey AW cog spacer if necessary. BB's like Phils will allow up to 2mm of adjustment I believe. So a 110 would have you covered.
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I have a Shimano small parts catalog from 1994 or so that goes back a way and the listing for Sante shows it uses a 108mm spindle for both 68 and 70mm BB shells. That's odd because every other crank takes a 2mm longer spindle for an Italian threaded BB. Maybe the catalog is wrong but it says 108mm for either.
It also lists it only available with Biopace rings. I have no idea if that should matter, probably not.
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Since individual BB spindles for late 1980s cranksets seem to have now become increasingly rare - and his existing BB is shot to begin with,... does anyone know what sort of right side off-set (or, perhaps none at all) the "D-3K" spindle originally for the Sante double crankset had?

I ask, because perhaps there is a more common, slightly more modern, Shimano "UN"-series cartridge bearing set which would be compatible. These are often still available even at a LBS. But, there were a great many different lengths and even with different off-sets on the drive side. And, I believe the UN53 / UN54 is still in current production. These are available in 107 & 110 lengths... . so might one of these work with the Sante? Seems like this would be a great buy (selling new for only around $20 or $25)... that is, IF one would fit the crank.
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