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Old 01-13-18, 05:00 AM   #12676
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Those tools are *the* treasure. The 2nd bike I ever bought was a '77 Raleigh Super Course that I got at a garage sale and I still have. The lady selling asked me if I might want some tools with it and for a small amount extra I walked away with a lot of Park tools that quickly became indispensible. At the time I purchased them I didn't realize just how important they'd become to me, but i was taught to never turn down tools at a reasonable price. Good advice...
I agree, the tools are the biggest find. I did a similar clean out over the summer up in NY.
The guy had four tool boxes atop a workbench along the back wall in the garage, and another in the house in the basement. I couldn't even see the tools or what was on the benches because of the clutter. Each drawer in the tool boxes had an oily rag covering the tools in each drawer.

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The tools and tool boxes are surely a big bonus, I wasn't positive at first if they went with the lot but he said load them up after I asked several times what he planned to do with them.
So far the guy hasn't asked for a thing, he even tried to pay for the pizza the other day I ordered for the crew helping me.

All the new parts are bagged and tagged, even parts in new boxes have been removed and bagged in clear bags to keep them clean.

As I open up some of the tubs, I'm finding more new parts, but instead of being tagged and sorted in the bins, their in tubs marked 'French', 'English', 'Raleigh', 'Peugeot', 'Motobecane', etc. What I'm finding it the tubs are sorted by bike model or by country and style of threading. I opened one tub and it was all vintage French parts, all Stronglight, Mafac, Ideal, etc. Another was marked Peugeot and is all bits of chrome, brackets, forks, grips, and parts with the Peugeot name on them, another was marked Raleigh and was full of Raleigh scripted stems, cranksets, skewers, grips, and other Raleigh branded parts. The tubs may prove to be hiding some real gems. The tub marked French had two mint Stronglight 93 cranksets, several TA cranksets, and boxes of Mafac calipers, levers, as well as Stronglight French headsets and bottom brackets. It seems he stripped or parted out a lot of nice bikes in the past. The heaviest tub so far was marked British and was full of scripted chrome steel cranksets, Raleigh, Armstrong, Rudge, BSA, etc. It had to weigh 200 lbs or more, and it was up in the attic over the garage.
Considering the garage has only 2x4 trusses overhead, its amazing the place didn't fall in on him with all that weight up there.

In the garage, there were two shelves full of spokes, some boxes go back to the 30's. The bad part is many are near empty, some are empty or have only one or two spokes, others are unopened. There are a few dozen huge bundles of stainless spokes, There's also some non stainless bundles like this too. A lot of the spokes are branded Crown.
There's also a lot of parts branded 'Union', spokes, pedals, hubs, etc.
There's also hundreds of baskets, buckets, and crates full of junk used parts that will have to be scrapped.
I don't see any reason to save 15 buckets of used ball bearings, or rusty Wald headsets.

I found lots of brands I never saw before
One of the coolest so far that I've not run across is a three speed bike with the BURGERS ENR brand on the headbadge. All the writing on the frame is in what I believe is Dutch, and there's a ton of writing, as if the decals tell a story. The bike is black, has 26x1 3/8" rims, an extreme rake to the fork, more than any British bike I've seen, and very little chrome. It appears to be a mix of German, Dutch, British and Italian parts. It has caliper brakes. I did a quick online search and most of all the info on these is in Dutch, and most of the pics I found are of older rod brake bikes not at all like this one. It doesn't appear to be a bike that was imported for sale here, so it really makes me think how it got here. I put it aside but it got packed in the back of the one storage room upstairs for now. I'll do a separate post on it when I dig it out.

One thing we were dealing with is that there's no light upstairs and not all the upstairs has floor strong enough to walk on. It also took me two days to figure out why the garage lights didn't work. There were two panels, one for the shop, another for the heater room, there was a switch marked HEATER that was off next to the old oil furnace, but it not only killed the heater, it killed the power to the main breaker panel in the garage.
I had to disconnect the heater since there was no oil in tank. I then put a plain switch in a separate box for him on the side of the heater. Its been warm so we didn't need any heat but I asked if the heater worked and he said it died years ago. He said its why he started working in the basement in the winter. Thus the reason for the two sets of tools and second stash or parts.

Since he's not asked for a dime for any of this, I figured I'd fix a few things while we were there. Neither of the garage door power openers were working when we got there, it took two guys to lift the one door. The opener had two belts, both of which had been well lubed for some reason. I put a couple of new belts on both openers, and cleaned and adjusted the drives and it all works like new now. There's a few broke windows I told the guys to deal with as well. I figure its the least I can do since we're pretty much disrupting his life for most of this week. I'll also have the guys sweep up and haul any trash and old boxes away as well. I'd like to leave him with a garage he can just pull his car into when we're done. I'm hoping to be done by Sunday night even though we're supposed to get rain again all day today. Then the sorting really begins. I need to sort out the junk fast and get this all organized ASAP so I'm not storing a bunch of junk that keeps me from getting to the good parts.
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Old 01-13-18, 05:48 AM   #12678
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A guy that I do automotive repair for was throwing away a sekine not sure what model but he said I could have it I would like to restore this bike and any help on what model it is would be great
The components are very late 70's, as is the headbadge. Check the components for date codes.
Then compare the frame with various model from those years. Color, lug style, fork crown, and tubing decals will help ID what it is.

That headbadge was what they used right before they started using only a decal for a headbadge.

Check out this site for some more info
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Old 01-13-18, 06:57 AM   #12679
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Im having issues trying to get a good picture but the side pull brakes would be shimano 600
Front deraileur is a.shimano 600
Shimano 600 shifters
SR crank stamped 3H
Normandy luxe hubs with a gold color label
Weinmann rims
And where the wheels mount its chrome and stamped shimano
SR handle bars
A sticker on downtube that i can barely read champion cro moly butted tubes
And the frame lugs seem pretty fancy compaired to what im use to seeing
Serial Y7 6933 color of the bike seems like a pearl color white
And as far as i know is seems original component wise
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If I were to guess, having dealt with only a few of those in the past I'd say its most likely a 75-78 SHS 270 or 271, or posibly an SHT270. The 600 bits may have been added later but the 600 EX line did start around 1978 but I'd think it would have been more likely to have had a Titlist rear derailleur and Tourney brakes back then. The top tow models came with Dura Ace or Crane derailleurs. The cranks say SHS270 no later than 1977 but they were around from about 1975 or so. You will need to get a few date codes off other components to make a better educated guess. I believe that headbadge started in or around 1977 and ran to the early 80's. The 2nd and 3rd from the top of the line models had forged dropouts and chrome tips on both ends.
My gut feeling is that with those cranks, if they are original, its likely an SHS 270 from 1977-78 with the thought that they likely used those cranks for a few model years till they were used up. I've seen those used on bikes as new as 1980, even though they were dated 1976. For the most part though, component dates don't lag more than a year or two behind the model year of the bike.
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Old 01-13-18, 12:26 PM   #12681
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Really enjoying reading your story and seeing the pics oldlugs.
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Well, after another day moving parts, I'm nearly done. All that's really left is to move the benches, some shelves, and about 400 or so bikes.
We concentrated mostly on the boxes of parts hanging wheelsets, and tires today, plus a few frames we found. I did Here's another lot of pics, I snapped these with the cell phone as we were loading them, a few were taken after it started to get dark so they're not that great but it should give an idea what I'm finding in this mess.
The crates full of hubs we loaded today were mostly all 3 speed hubs, Shimano and SA, plus a crate or two with HF Shimano hubs, and several boxes of LF Atom and Maillard hubs. Some of the white boxes are marked with years and bike models, so my guess is that the bike they fit is somewhere in the lot of frames, it appears those were bikes he was in the process of working on when he quit or gave it up. The owner was walking around today sort of shocked to see the walls again in the one side of the garage. He was also shocked to see the electric working and the garage doors operating again. The one garage door was bolted shut because he had several hundred wheels hanging from the ceiling in that room. We unbolted the door after we removed the wheels and got the door working again for him. That room still has bikes in it though. All in all so far I've counted roughly 700 complete bikes, in varying condition, most are pretty low end and rough, plus about 1600 complete wheels that are pretty much in decent shape. Most turned out to be matched 3 speed pairs. The oldest bike so far has been a 56 or so Schwinn Tourist, for which I've found most all the parts except the fork but its tagged with a 'location' of the fork, I just have to make sense of his notes to figure out what or where that means. Its likely in one of the buckets we already moved. The newest bike so far has been a few late 80's moutain bikes and maybe some of the department store stuff but I really am not too concerned how old a bike is that came from Kmart of the nearest five and dime back then.
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Old 01-13-18, 07:28 PM   #12683
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It's really nice to hear about you doing repairs for the guy's house/garage. I've got to believe he really appreciates that.
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It's really nice to hear about you doing repairs for the guy's house/garage. I've got to believe he really appreciates that.
It didn't take much time, and it sure made the job of moving all this stuff a lot easier being able to open both doors and being able to see what we were doing. Besides, he just gave me several trailer loads of bike parts. There's probably close to a truck load of just new parts alone.
Its a major case of being in the right place at the right time, probably for me and him. I'm not sure who's happier, me or his wife. She keeps telling me its the first time she's seen the basement walls and floor in 40 years. They had a guy there today putting in a chair lift on both stairs in the house, one to the basement, another to the second floor.
At last the basement had outside access and we didn't have to haul all that stuff through the house to remove it.

I must say, I hope I don't stumble on another mess like this too soon, this is starting to feel like work.
I now have my back porch packed with parts that have to be carried down to the basement and sorted, I didn't feel like making another trip out to my shop after loading the truck the last time today. Its piled on my porch till I make some room down in the basement for it all. There were a few boxes I didn't want buried so they came back in this load with me. The rest can stay in the trailers, I'll use a buddies dump trailer for the last load of bikes and my open trailer for the benches and shelves.
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It didn't take much time, and it sure made the job of moving all this stuff a lot easier being able to open both doors and being able to see what we were doing. Besides, he just gave me several trailer loads of bike parts. There's probably close to a truck load of just new parts alone.
Its a major case of being in the right place at the right time, probably for me and him. I'm not sure who's happier, me or his wife. She keeps telling me its the first time she's seen the basement walls and floor in 40 years. They had a guy there today putting in a chair lift on both stairs in the house, one to the basement, another to the second floor.
At last the basement had outside access and we didn't have to haul all that stuff through the house to remove it.

I must say, I hope I don't stumble on another mess like this too soon, this is starting to feel like work.
I now have my back porch packed with parts that have to be carried down to the basement and sorted, I didn't feel like making another trip out to my shop after loading the truck the last time today. Its piled on my porch till I make some room down in the basement for it all. There were a few boxes I didn't want buried so they came back in this load with me. The rest can stay in the trailers, I'll use a buddies dump trailer for the last load of bikes and my open trailer for the benches and shelves.
I can tell your haul was 10 times more then mine was lol, the tools alone would have made me feel like I hit a gold mine. The tools I got were nothing like that, the truing stand was the best one I came away with., I still have bunches of lower end parts that have been sitting here the last 10 yrs that I picked up with a few jewels here and there.
Like you I also worked on getting his garage cleaned and working again & was still working on it when he passed. I tried to contact his family after but got no response from anyone, so I went back and picked up some of my tools and supplies but left a lot there as I didn't want to be arrested for trespassing, although his neighbors knew me and they gave me all the contact info for his family. No one even came to the house as it went up for sale with everything still inside, the land was sold off and new homes were built all around his and a lot of stuff was removed by people that were working for the builders I'm sure as I would at least stop by and check on the place, sucks!

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I just got back with the last of it all, all the junk bikes are in a dump trailer, stacked like firewood, the decent bikes are upstairs at work and a few came home with me. I took everything but the one narrow work bench along the wall which was only about 18" deep, it was bolted through the block wall and I figured he could use it somehow as it was more or less part of the building. We swept the floor when we were done. We left him with two working garage door openers, the third door was manual only but we unbolted the track and got the key latch working with some lube. The furnace works, but he needs to buy fuel, I dumped in about 5 gallons but just so I knew it would run.
I took all the metal shelves, the tools, tool boxes, three bike stands, (the type that hold the bike by the bottom tube and bb), plus one wall mount Park stand with damaged base. He had that bolted to the one work bench in the basement.

I took another tool box from the basement, but left him with some basic tools hanging on the wall, a set of screwdrivers, some pliers, a hammer, etc. The general hand tools weren't anything special. The one tool box I showed here was the only one with bike tools, its a 5 or 6 drawer Craftsman tool chest that sat on the garage work bench. The back wall of the garage bench was covered with bike tools, he had just about every freewheel adapter there is, plus a few I've never seen before. He even had a few custom cut hardwood blocks marked with hub models, they were used to clamp hubs in the HUGE vise on the bench so he could open internal gear hubs when they weren't in the wheel.
There are several frame repair tools, clamps, straightener bars, threading tools, fork gauges and benders, and rim straigtening tools. While I already had a good assortment of bike tools, this certainly reinforces my collection a great deal.

I still haven't opened all the tubs, at least not beyond just popping the lid to see what type of parts were inside. Those are stacked up waiting for me to go through them. Most appear to be all new parts and are brand or country of origin specific. I counted 14 large tubs, 39 smaller tubs, and over 50 small 12" square boxes full of used parts that were on shelves in the shop. He saved everything, good or bad. If it had so much as a single part left on it he kept it in the main shop. The truck tool boxes, barrels, and crates out in the back shed and in the yard had parts that were either broken, rusted, or that had been stripped of all useful bits. The milk crates and wood boxes we found were all full of used hubs cut out of wheels, many still had the ends of the spokes in them. They were sorted by brand, and spoke count but it appears he saved every hub, good or bad. I counted 7 milk crates of used SA AW hubs, 3 with Shimano 333 3 speed hubs, one with Suntour 3 speed hubs, one large wood box had all New Departure hubs from the 50's, another had only ND model C, and another small tub has only ND model A hubs and parts. There was one smaller drawer cabinet with all ND and Morrow parts in drawers. I counted another 30 or so new geared hubs, several new coaster brake hubs in each brand, and boxes of used bits he saved.
I did find several boxes of bike chain, but only of derailleur chain, I found less than 30 1/8" bike chains but I did find several packs of new skip link chain and two cases of old KMC derailleur chain.
My smaller trailer is packed to the top with beer boxes full of parts as well, these appear to be mostly saddles, stems, bars, tubes, folded up road tires, books, reflectors, (lots of reflectors), rear racks, kick stands, sprockets, pedals, etc. That load will take months to go through, but I think it can be sorted out and consolidated into smaller boxes and shelved eventually. I didn't intend to turn my garage or house into a full on bike shop but its looking that way now. My main hobby has always been wood working but right now my wood shop is overrun with bike parts.

One of the biggest surprises is how many brand new rims he had stashed upstairs, most in case quantities, in all the adult sizes. Most though are 26x1 3/8", 26" MTB and 27" road bike rims. I filled the bed of my pickup twice with just new rims.

He also had two buckets of disassembled freewheels, sorted by brand. He took them apart, cleaned the bits, then bagged them in heavy zip lock bags still apart. The majority of those are Maillard, Suntour, and Shimano in that order with a few Regina, Campy, and odd brands in there as well.

Its sort of apparent that when he wasn't working on a bike, he was most likely parting them out then cleaning and tagging the parts. He had to have been doing this for decades. He told me his favorite thing to do was build wheels, which most likely why I found so many perfect wheelsets hanging all over the place. With most being 26x1 3/8" three speed wheel sets. The majority of the bikes are this style, with old cheap road bikes running a close second. While all the new rims were mostly aluminum, nearly all the wheels are steel, and nearly all the bikes we found would have been steel wheel models. Only one or two of the road bikes were high enough models to even have alloy rims.

I never realized how many different really low end bike brands there were back then. More than 3/4 of the bikes are just junk, too far gone to salvage anything from. About 50 or so would be ridable with air in the tires and some oil. The rest need wheel work, bearings, or simply have sat so long the grease is turned to stone. The late 70's department store and Asian bikes are the worst this way, so many of them are frozen up with dried out grease. The really old bikes seem to roll and pedal fine. One Panasonic three speed is so gummed up it won't roll, pedal or shift. Yet the bike looks really clean otherwise. Even the tires held air.

He did take care of the tools though, he had Rust Blocker blocks in each drawer and most chrome tools were wrapped in oily paper towels. A few are crusty but they will clean up. The best part is that the place was dry, no mildew or dampness anywhere so things that were likely nice when he packed them away, stayed that way.
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I think you did the guy a favor. His hobby must have become an avocation, then an obsession, and then a burden. He is now rid of all of that and has a clean garage and basement as well as a working heater and garage doors (not to mention a happier wife).
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It didn't take much time, and it sure made the job of moving all this stuff a lot easier being able to open both doors and being able to see what we were doing. Besides, he just gave me several trailer loads of bike parts. There's probably close to a truck load of just new parts alone.
Its a major case of being in the right place at the right time, probably for me and him. I'm not sure who's happier, me or his wife. She keeps telling me its the first time she's seen the basement walls and floor in 40 years. They had a guy there today putting in a chair lift on both stairs in the house, one to the basement, another to the second floor.
At last the basement had outside access and we didn't have to haul all that stuff through the house to remove it.
Well, I still commend you for helping out with some of their home repairs. Regardless of how small they may be to you, I am sure they appreciate the help. From what I gather from this, and a few of your other posts about this, they are an elderly couple with some health issues (chair lift being installed). I am sure they both feel a big relief from not having to deal with all the "stuff" any longer, and you probably saved this stuff from just going directly to the landfill without any of it being saved. Imagine if the guy had passed and his wife just called the scrapper. At least now they can move on to other things in their life without this hanging over their heads.

Looking forward to more pics and seeing what you discover in the piles!
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I think you did the guy a favor. His hobby must have become an avocation, then an obsession, and then a burden. He is now rid of all of that and has a clean garage and basement as well as a working heater and garage doors (not to mention a happier wife).
Maybe so but at his age, all he gained was a place to park his car and maybe his lawn mower.
Both he and his wife were up in years, my guess was he was no longer able to do what he had been doing and had given it up some time ago. I suppose there was a long period between when he last worked on bikes and when he finally decided to let it all go. I sort felt that my stopping that day may have been what helped in that decision, as all he was doing up to that point was tossing a few wheels away in the trash. But I also can't stop thinking what he may have thrown away before I noticed the parts that day in the trash. I hadn't gone by that way in in months.
I may have missed dozens of wheelsets that I never knew about?
But of course, if never asked if there were any other bike parts, I'd have only had what I pulled from the trash those two days.

His wife was ecstatic about it all being gone, she was giving things away too, she gave me one of the most extensive cook book collections I've ever seen, over 200 hardcover books.
He also gave me a couple of old outboards from the 70's, a 9.8hp Mercury that looks like new, and an old Gale 25hp. He said the boat got crushed years ago when a tree fell on it, the motors have been sitting ever since.

When I asked him which of the bikes were his personal rides he said he never was much of a bike rider, he preferred four wheels. I suppose that's the best way to be when it came to a business, I was always told never to make your hobby your business because you will eventually get sick of doing it and you won't enjoy it anymore.
I think he liked to tinker and build bikes but somehow never became an avid rider. I think maybe he saw them more as art than transportation.

Years ago I cleaned out a lot of bikes from a guy up north of here, I hauled away a two car garage full of old balloon tire bikes and parts. I had met the guy after buying a bike off him on eBay for almost nothing. The guy said he was done with bikes, and just wanted his garage back. That deal wasn't free but I didn't pay much at all for them. I left the man with a completely empty garage, he was thrilled with the fact he had all that room again. Three years later, I was back there cleaning out twice as much as I had the first time, he packed it the second time with even better bikes and parts, but again, nothing spectacular.
Five years after that, he called me again, this time asking if I'd come empty his garage again. This time it was full of a combination of old road bikes and garden tractors. It turned out he was an auction junky, he'd buy this stuff for almost nothing, tinker around with it till he got tired of it or till he ran out of room, then dump it all and repeat.
I don't suppose he paid much for any of it but he liked the thrill of winning an auction. I asked him why he didn't just return all the stuff to an auction and recoup some of what he paid but he said none of it would bring enough at auction to justify his time. He didn't value any of it anymore than the few dollars he paid for it at auction.
I haven't heard from him now in over 10 years now but he'd be well into his 80's now too. I guess there comes a time in one's life when all the things you collected over the years just don't matter anymore.

Although the lot I just moved was free for the taking, I have yet to tally up what it cost me to move, but I've got four days pay to four helpers, plus fuel, and the cost of several extra dumpster loads at the shop to consider. I've probably got close to $2500 in all of this, maybe more.
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Im having issues trying to get a good picture but the side pull brakes would be shimano 600
Front deraileur is a.shimano 600
Shimano 600 shifters
SR crank stamped 3H
Normandy luxe hubs with a gold color label
Weinmann rims
And where the wheels mount its chrome and stamped shimano
SR handle bars
A sticker on downtube that i can barely read champion cro moly butted tubes
And the frame lugs seem pretty fancy compaired to what im use to seeing
Serial Y7 6933 color of the bike seems like a pearl color white
And as far as i know is seems original component wise
I've got the same bike, except the green colour. Check out @randyjawa 's website mytenspeeds.com, he has a full profile on this bike. Worth restoring!
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I did some more digging after I got home today, there's a lot more here than I had first thought. A lot of parts got loaded that I didn't see during the big move. There are quite a few plastic shoe boxes that are marked with bike models and years that contain all the new take off parts from those bikes, shifters, derailleurs, brakes, BB and HS, chains, freewheels, etc. There are also a few tubs full of French only parts, Stronglight and TA cranksets, BB, HS, and pedals, Simplex derailleurs, (mostly Presige and Criterium series), some Huret parts, and a few sets of French threaded rear hubs.
There's a load of Raleigh parts, most are marked Super Course or Comp. There are cases of rims, just about all adult sizes. I found more than a case of new Rigida 27" rims for a Peugeot UO8, several boxes of 'Baretta' branded 26x1 3/8" chrome steel rims made in Italy, several misc boxes of various road rims, and four boxes of vintage Araya 26" and 700C MTB or comfort bike rims. There are two cases of Michelin Dynamic in various 700C sizes. Most are 25 and 28mm. I counted over 50 new Maeda and Suntour freewheels, a few Shimano freewheels, several complete sets of Shimano 600 EX components, some Dura Ace and 105 road hubs, new Tange headsets, several boxes of complete BB kits, and more wheel sets I over looked before as well. There seems to be roughly a half dozen sets of 27" Rigida 1320 rims matched to Miche Competition hubs, and some more matched to early Dura Ace hubs.

There's a few boxes of sealed bearing, used Lambert hubs in 32/40 hole.
I found one whole tub with nothing but the running gear for 1978 Raleigh Super Course's, enough to assemble about 5 or 6 complete new bikes if I have the frames here somewhere. I know there's at least two, but I didn't load them all myself. One steamer trunk the guys hauled down from upstairs in his garage was full of Torrington spokes from the 40's and 50's. It must have taken four guys to get it down the ladder and in the truck, and the same to get it upstairs at the shop.

I think I'll still be finding surprises here a year from now, I only opened about four tubs and a few dozen small boxes and I can't believe all of what's here yet. I didn't even get to the boxes I tagged and marked not to bury yet. These were just a few that were on top in the last load.

Most all of the better items are in plastic bags, inside zip lock bags. I didn't open every bag, but I think enough shows through in the pics for most to get the idea of the scope of what this guy had. I'm absolutely amazed at how well he tagged and stored most of the better items. I'm also shocked at how many wheels and hubs he had for wheel building, he must have built a lot of wheels at one point. While there's some rims in these pics, this is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to new rims. These are just the open boxes and mixed boxes he had down around the work area, he had sealed boxes of various size rims upstairs I didn't even crack open yet.
I also found a cardboard drum, roughly 40 gallon size full of used Normandy hubs, it got loaded and stashed behind a cabinet at work, I never even saw it till today. I also still haven't even really begun to go through the towers of milk crates full of used hubs, used brake calipers, used stems, bundles of fenders, rear racks, used handle bars, and saddles. There are two full 15 gallon oil drums full of just seat steel clamps. He had squirt bottles full of bearings of each size on the work bench, and 5 lb boxes of bearings in each size to refill the squirt bottles with. I found brand new 3 speed hubs branded as Sears, SA, Suntour, and Shimano. There is one full tub of new New Departure model D parts, plus a half dozen brand new hubs that likely have never seen the light of day. I found wholesale order sheets and receipts as far back as 1952 along with many vintage catalogs for parts. The shear number of some items is mind boggling, he must have bought in bulk when he bought parts, making sure he bought enough of any one item to last a lifetime. There is also a case of 35-597 26x1 1/4" Rigida rims in 36h, and another of the same marked Made in Italy but labeled Joannou. There are four cases of various Araya alloy rims, several loose Araya steel rims, and some Ukai rims, most all 27". The only 700C rims I found are Weinmann concave in both 36 and 40h and some 35-40mm wide 700C single wall rims for city bikes. Once I get some of this sorted, I suppose I need to inventory it and mark its location or I'll never find it again in this mess. For today I was just flipping open boxes and snapping pics so I have a rough idea what's all here.

At this point, the hardest thing to wrap my head around is the fact that he gave this all away, I can't imagine myself getting to the point where I just tell a total stranger to just take everything. I suppose there comes a point in life when you realize you just can't take it with you. I suppose if you could, I'd best be buying a bigger truck or two.

Here's a bunch of pics of some of the better items I found today.
I'll back off on the pics for a while here, I feel like I'm taking over the thread a bit with all this.

1- Baretta 26x1 3/8" rims (I wiped one off for the pic)
2- Misc 27' rims
3- box of handle bars
4- Early Dura Ace hubset
5- SR 110mm Stem
6- Weinmann and Raleigh Scripted CP calipers
7- Lambert sealed hub pairs
8- Riveted leather saddle
9- Misc French bits
10- Cloth bar tape and chrome counterweighted road pedals
11- Nervar alloy crankset
12- Raleigh engraved crankset, (Super Course etc.)
13- Stronglight 93 crankset and BB
14- TA Crankset
15- Tourney cranksets
16- Suntour Cyclone kit complete with barcons and cables (Marked Super Course/Moto GJ)
17- Wheel reflectors
18- SR pedals
19- Simplex derailleurs and parts
20- Suntour Cyclone GT
21- Ross Gran Tour NOS wheelset
22- Dia Compe side pull calipers
23- Rim strips, Titlist frt derailleur
24- Maillard rear skewers
25- Maillard front skewers
26- BMX BB, brakes
27- Atom pedals and barcon shifters, box marked Raleigh SC New take offs
28- French threaded freewheel, red cable casing, made in France, Suntour Cyclone GT, box marked Moto GJ
29- 27" Rigida 1320 rims, NOS
30- BMX cranks and misc front chain rings for 110mm.
31- Selle Royale leather saddles, (I'm finding these all over the place in various tubs and boxes).
32- Weinamann 27"
33- Shimano hubs
34- Shimano LF hubsets
35- Atom LF hubsets
36- Misc Headbadges
37- more Headbadges (there are boxes of headbadges, most sorted by country, new and used).
38- New tubular rear rack for touring or road bike
39- Misc. Shimano Nexus bits, (found a few new Nexus hubs too)
40- Box marked new take off parts from Ross Super Grand Tour
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I had to post one more, I found this in one of the buckets of new forks, I don't think I've ever seen a 304mm steer tube fork before. The threads aren't long enough to cut the thing down much either. I'd like to see the bike this fits.
The fork reads Akisu butted tubes on the label. It looks like a replacement fork but most have more threaded area so you can cut to fit but this has barely enough threads for a thick headset. The blades measure 367mm to axle center.
I also can't imagine what size person would ride such a bike.
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I've had a few really tall Fuji and Panasonic bikes from the early 80's that used 300mm or longer forks. A buddy rides a 69cm Fuji that he's had since new, he's 6ft9. I seem to remember seeing a 72cm frame once in a Schwinn dealer, not sure if it was a Schwinn or other brand but the head tube was massive.
Those big bikes bring a premium around here, not so much that buyers need a big frame, they just seem to prefer big bikes. I sold a 66cm Panasonic DX1000 last summer to a guy that was no more than 5ft1. He coudln't even get on the bike without getting along side a porch or tailgate of a truck but he had to have it. Each time I find a larger bike, he buys it. He can't even reach the pedals without getting off the saddle and 'reaching' down with each leg side to side to pedal. Akisu was Tange or Champion tubing. If someone damaged a fork that size, the one you have there may be their only shot at getting the bike back up and rolling again. Those are super rare these days. Especially if that's for 27" wheels.
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I found these in a box of goodies from that clean out last week
Suntour Perfect, Maeda 888, and Suntour Pro Comp cogs.
This explains why I found two boxes of new freewheel bodies in one drawer cabinet.
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I for one would foresee a lot of interest in the Suntour freewheel parts for us guys with similar freewheels. Did you find equivalent spacers and lockrings?
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Today's haul from a lady in the City that was giving riding up for now because she needs an upright hybrid type of bike. So she offered all of these to me for free.
2006 Dolce
90's Yokota Tuolumne
Mavic Race pedals
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Although the lot I just moved was free for the taking, I have yet to tally up what it cost me to move, but I've got four days pay to four helpers, plus fuel, and the cost of several extra dumpster loads at the shop to consider. I've probably got close to $2500 in all of this, maybe more.
There's a saying in the motorcycle world that there's nothing more expensive than a free motorcycle.
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I wish we had bike coops here, until I signed up here I never heard of them. Around here bikes get trashed or end up in a hoarders pile somewhere I guess.
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