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Old 12-09-08, 05:57 PM
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You know what I've noticed...

It seems to me that we, as the C&V crowd, seem to enjoy high gearing on our bikes.
Maybe I'm just not paying much attention to the freewheels on them, but, it's how it seems to me.
I guess it's cause we're all obessed with resto's, or period/model correct, or something, Iuhno. Maybe we're all masochists. Or maybe it's cause we're trying to be our favorite racers, or something...
Or maybe I'm just weird and like to point out things no one else may have thought of.
Just an observation.
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Old 12-09-08, 06:24 PM
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My Frejus has a 47/50 up front with a 14-24 FW and enjoy is a word that does not come to mind.
I think it has more to do with the capacity of the period der's. My pushrod Gran Sport front probably won't shift more than a 6 tooth difference (on a good day) and the rear is stamped 26 max.
No you're not weird, I've given it more thought than I'm willing to admit to.
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Old 12-09-08, 06:26 PM
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I dont know about that, ive always felt it was the otherway around, theres always a thread being posted about someone wanting a triple or a compact, or lower gears back there.

While I have no use for a triple or a compact and I dont think anything bigger than 25 belongs on the back, but I sure wouldnt be using one of those straight blocks unless i'm planning on visiting some flatlands which surely doesn't interest me, I like the hills!
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Back in NYC, I only rode with a straight block.
Here in Socal, I've actually been looking around for a 13/28 to go with my Campy SR 42/53.
One needs at 40" gear down here.
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My road bike is 12-25 in the back with a 50/34 or a 50/36 in the front, my touring bike is 46/36/24 with an 11-32... how is that for low!? I do have a bike on my wall with a 13-21 5sp and a 42/52 but haven't even ridden it yet and when I do it will be pretty flat and not often.
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I'm the opposite because I did years of touring before I learned to wrench on bikes and appreciate old steel. I'm still the type that appreciates versatility in my bicycles, and around where I live that means you have to have a decent gear range.

Another thing I've noticed is that a lot of people simply have high gearing for bragging rights or to give off the impression that they are a strong rider. I'm not saying I've noticed that just in C&V, but just generally.
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I think lots of the older road bikes just came with higher gearing, while touring models offered a wider range. My '76 AD Ultima has Campy SR 42/53 up front. Years ago, I gave up on the 13-21 and went to a 13-23 six-speed freewheel (it may be a 13-24). The rear DR won't handle much more, but I'm OK with how it is now, just real slow going up hills. I can't fathom changing the design of the bike much further from the original gearing.

Compare that to my old Raleigh Grand Prix ('74?), with really broad gearing designed for a more relaxed ride. Very different bikes originally targeted for very differnt customers.

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Old 12-09-08, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Amani576 View Post
It seems to me that we, as the C&V crowd, seem to enjoy high gearing on our bikes.

I guess it's cause we're all obessed with resto's, or period/model correct, or something, Iuhno. Maybe we're all masochists. Or maybe it's cause we're trying to be our favorite racers, or something...

Just an observation.
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Mabye it's because as we get older, (lots older than you, Gene), that we look forward to the downhills more....
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Definitely not on this end. I normally ride a 46 to 48 tooth large chainwheel (and the 46 on the Mavic replica bike is definitely spoiling me). Just went through a six month process of finally finding a 48t Stronglight chainwheel for the 93 on my Tour de France, so now it's back in the regular riding rotation with the rest of the stable.

Unfortunately, the only bike I've got left with factory stock gearing (42-52) is my UO-8, and I seriously doubt I'm going to find a Nervar ringset for the cottered crank on that bike. Although I'm still looking.

Part of the problem was that, with the exception of Campagnolo (and therefore Sugino), chainwheels in one tooth increments weren't all that readily available in the US. So, you were usually stuck with the factory stock.
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I like a normal range. But I am stuck with the danged 12, usually. A 13 actually means you get another useful gear up the cluster a ways, but (I guess) because of the macho thingie, I almost always get a 12 when shopping for a new one.

The gearing for my latest is gonna be a 17 20 23 though. If I can get it to work...
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running mostly 52/42 & 13-22 & 13-23 6 speeds on my older bikes.

why?... 'cause I can't push a 52/48 & 13-21 on steep hills any more and it was easier & cheaper to just swap out the inner chainring and a couple cogs.
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It's not C&V, but my mile-eater has 30-40-50 and 12-26. I can push bigger gears up hills, but after about 800 feet of climbing, the legs can't continue. A lot different from when I was 20 and I was either in 52-14 or 52-16 (for hills). The things I took for granted back then.
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Not me...I run 52/40-14/34 on the Bottecchia and 52/42-14/28 on the UO8. On the Panasonic I replace the stock 28 granny with a 26 so it's 26/40/50-14/28. And I'm planning to get a 13/32 for the back.
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A couple months ago, I was skinning my knuckles trying to clean between the front chainrings, and it occurred to me that I use the big one so seldom that I might as well not have it. I removed it, and the FD.

People can think what they like about me, or my manhood. I'd like to go a bit lower than 42-26, but I seldom use that gear in my normal riding around NYC. I use the 42-13 combination even less often; just don't have that need. I might build something with a single 39T chainwheel next. I've tried riding around in only one gear, but I don't think that I have the knees for it anymore; I'm much more comfortable spinning than hammering, so I need several gears to do that. I seem to be doing just fine with a single chainring and a 7-speed cluster.

So, maybe I should have bought Sheldon Brown's Competition.
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My 85 Fuji Sagres Mixte has a 14-16-19-22-26-30 six speed cluster on the rear, and a 40-50 on the front with 27 inch wheels… 50-14 is plenty high enough for me (about 96 gear inches). If I ever get to the point when I can spin fast enough to be gear bound with a 50-14, I’ll quit my day job buy a new bike and go race in the TDF… I doubt it will ever happen.
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I have 52/42 - 13/21 7sp on my Privitera, 52/42 - 12/23 9sp on my Pinarello. The 12, 13 and 14 are usually only for tailwinds, though.
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I guess I'm a heretic, because the first thing I do on a bike I'll ride regularly is re-gear it to suit my terrain and aging legs.
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Hey. Any of you he-men interested in a 57 tooth Sugino chainring - 144 BCD?


Seriously though, if any of you want it, drop me a PM. I don't know what I was thinking 5 years back when I got it.
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All of my derailer bikes have 28t large cogs. My fixie and three speed both have 52X22 gearing.
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Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
Hey. Any of you he-men interested in a 57 tooth Sugino chainring - 144 BCD?


Seriously though, if any of you want it, drop me a PM. I don't know what I was thinking 5 years back when I got it.
You thought it was a 47? Maybe if I keep the 3Rensho TT for show I'd put something that size on just for effect.
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It's a dilemma all right! Do you keep your bike in its original gearing, or you keep your original knees?

To change the 18T cog on my Norman to a 22T, I even had to replace the driver in the hub, which seemed like pretty major surgery, but still nothing compared to new knees....
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For serious mountain climbing I use 52-42-32 chainrings on a 13-34 tooth seven speed freewheel.

What can I say? I'm a wuss when it comes to high gears.
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Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
Hey. Any of you he-men interested in a 57 tooth Sugino chainring - 144 BCD?


Seriously though, if any of you want it, drop me a PM. I don't know what I was thinking 5 years back when I got it.
Believe it or not, PM coming your way. Blame it on the snow outside, or the fuzzy foggy headed haze of a post/departing flu bug/virus, either way a PM is on the way.

I had a response typed to this thread earlier, but the browser crashed when I coughed, then this chainring distracted me, and , well, a corncob has always looked elegant on a svelt racing machine.
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I have several single-speed setups, and usually favor something in the neighborhood of a 68-70" gear, which is excellent for commuting and a good workout when I do a ride of moderate hills. My most recent setup is happened to be a 75" gear, and, man, it's much harder to push! However, I had about the fastest commute I've had this year the other day. Still, I'm with a bigger single-speed freewheel in the rear.

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You thought it was a 47? Maybe if I keep the 3Rensho TT for show I'd put something that size on just for effect.
I knew what I was getting. I had just started riding again, and had noted I ran out of gear pedaling downhill with 52-14. It looks like someone else is interested, so if you want one - I won't be the person to come asking about it.
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