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Old 12-11-08, 10:06 AM
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Brakes and levers

I am fixing up my older Fuji Royale and have decided to replace the DiaCompe G brake set that I had with a new Shimano BR-R600, dual pivot design in order to improve braking - I live in the mountains of NC, closer to 60 than 50, so my speeding downhill days are over. Got a reasonable price so it seemed better to replace them with a modern design than to pay high price for better vintage stuff. That's my plan anyway. I am aware of the mounting changes and am prepared to deal with that.

What about levers? I currently have DiaCompe regular levers. Is there any reason to change, for example the lever that goes with this set is the Shimano BL-R600, aero version. Pretty pricey. What if any is the advantage of aero levers. Wrapping the cable for 10" under the tape is not that big an advantage to me. Do the aero levers work or act differently. Any brake/lever advice is welcome.

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Old 12-11-08, 10:20 AM
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There's no mechanical difference. Newer aero levers are considered by many (myself included) to be more comfy, just because of the shape and padding.

Also, you don't need the BL-R600 levers-- the next level down, R400, is identical except for the color of some of the plastic. Tektro also makes a cheap, very good lever that is sold rebranded by cane creek for twice the price.

Shimano:
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...oducts_id=6341

Tektro:
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=402888
-- They also make this in silver, but I'm too lazy to find it.
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Old 12-11-08, 11:03 AM
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Tektro R200 aero levers work really well, and it's hard to beat the price:

http://www.bikeworldusa.us/Tektro-Ro...source=froogle

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Tektro levers also have a broad and comfortable platform.
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As I'm finding out though about the tektro's... if you're ever unhappy with the black, it's seemingly impossible to change colors. Otherwise, they're great levers. The quick release built into them works great, and still allows you to brake completely even when it's open. They're wide and comfortable (for me atleast), so, as long as you don't have small hands they'll work great.
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Old 12-11-08, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by alpacalypse View Post
There's no mechanical difference. Newer aero levers are considered by many (myself included) to be more comfy, just because of the shape and padding.
In the sense that you pull on the lever and it actuates the brake they are mechanically the same. However, the pivot placement and the direction of cable pull are different. Aero levers provide increased mechanical advantage in comparison to traditional out-the-top levers. Using the Tektro levers is good advice.
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Old 12-11-08, 09:26 PM
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I'm in the process of rebuilding a Fuji, so been thinking about the brake situation as well. One thing I noticed is that if you ride the DiaCompe brake hoods, getting your fingers around to effectively work the standard lever is not all that easy. And all that keeps you from slipping forward off the hood is the cable sticking up out of the top.

By contrast, modern hoods are ergonomically designed to provide a better hand perch for grip, as well as moving the pivot point such that you can get finger power onto the lever for better braking.

I'm on a tight budget, so changing the brakes at this point is not going to happen. Instead, I changed out the red button pivots on the std DiaCompe for the longer ones, and added 'safety/suicide' secondary levers. Now before you throw stones, realize why most experienced riders dislike the idea of them - because people don't know how to use them! If you compromise your hand position and place them by the stem, you loose mechanical steering leverage and control. But if you continue to ride out by the hoods, the secondary lever (if adjusted properly), provide an alternate contact point with plenty of finger contact and greatly increased braking power over the original system when riding the hoods.
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Old 12-30-08, 03:28 PM
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Thanks to everyone that responded. I found a used pair of Shimano BL-R600 in like new shape for cheap so I got those and put them on. Very nice. I didn't think the aero levers and cable routing were that much different then the older stuff, but I have to admit I like the look and the feel of the brakes. The spring return on the levers is nice as well.
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