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ozneddy 12-13-08 02:10 PM

The Ultimate!
 
What in YOUR opinion was the "R*//s-R*yce" of road bikes ? (Hetchins,Paramount,Bianchi?) and if you have it-show it !

USAZorro 12-13-08 02:24 PM

"Rolls Royce" would IMO, be a Rene Herse Randonneur. Unfortunately, I have not allocated my resources to be able to acquire one.

infinityeye 12-13-08 04:22 PM

jelly beans in poop

Old Fat Guy 12-13-08 04:38 PM

I really don't know, but judging from what I've ridden, any Ugo De Rosa built bike, or a Pegoretti Luigino would be at, or near the top of any short list.

RobbieTunes 12-13-08 09:34 PM

Pinarello Montello.
Good enough for Miguel.

Otis 12-13-08 10:13 PM

Ever driven a Rolls Royce? I have. And it does not translate into any type of analogy for a road bike.

cudak888 12-13-08 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by Otis (Post 8017466)
Ever driven a Rolls Royce? I have. And it does not translate into any type of analogy for a road bike.

Kent Nottingham w/steel rims?

-Kurt

Otis 12-13-08 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 8017538)
Kent Nottingham w/steel rims?

-Kurt

No, worse than that :)

ozneddy 12-14-08 01:14 AM

You dont quite get my drift do you Otis !

LesterOfPuppets 12-14-08 01:38 AM

I'm not sure I get your drift, either.

Hmmmmm, something really expensive, hand-made, luxurious, classically attractive but handles like a cow and is not very reliable...., hmmmm I dunno. Are there any bikes out there where the seatpost has an umbrella on the other end? That would get my vote.

The Hello Kitty bling bike is pretty hot, also...

Oh, wait, I got it. I gotta go find it, though..., well, nahhh, I give up.

ozneddy 12-14-08 02:16 AM

OK OK lets forget the roller,lol lets just say the classiest best quality piece of (picture Homer drooling) bicycle excellence sent from the Gods !

teambhultima 12-14-08 11:27 AM

Whatever it is, it would have to be the color of "Grey Poupon"...
Merry Christmas!

ozneddy 12-14-08 12:44 PM

gee I did,nt really think this was a hard question !

bmaxwell 12-14-08 12:50 PM

nope not that difficult, just a bunch of dingbatts playin wiff ya.

ilikebikes 12-14-08 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Otis (Post 8017466)
Ever driven a Rolls Royce? I have. And it does not translate into any type of analogy for a road bike.

Ive driven a Rolls, no big whoop :( only a big deal to those who want to show the world that they have more ;) :D Just my two little pennies worth though so please dont get bent :) Ive never owned an Italian road bike so Id have to say my Austro Diamler would kinda compare to a Rolls? No pics as I got rid of that too! :lol:

bibliobob 12-14-08 01:12 PM

Well, I take it to mean that if I could have any bike in the world (but for keeping and not for resale), I'd choose a late 60s/early 70s Cinelli. I'd ride it, love it, keep it. Call me boring, but I can't think of anything that I'd like better. I really want to see if they have that "magic carpet ride" that people talk about.

stronglight 12-14-08 02:41 PM

This subject often comes up in conversation.

I'd think that a Rene Herse or Alex Singer Randonneur of full Touring bike from the 1950s or 1960s with all the custom fitted bells and whistles would be the true jewel in my collection... Especially, if it happened to fit me just right... which would always be a concern with any vintage made-to-measure bikes.

For a bike from a big manufacturer, this Peugeot "City" bike - apparently a Prototype or Show-bike from the 1950s - has a huge number of very trick fittings and accessories (such as all the concealed brake and derailleur cable routing)... although it never went into actual production.

With 650B wheels, and with the welded steel frame... it surely must weigh 50 pounds.

I'd still love to ride around town regularly on THIS baby! :love:

Maybe a good bicycle counterpart to a Rolls Royce, too?

Seen at a 2007 Paris bike show...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/...0af6072b9b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/...3f28a01e89.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/...e63d07efdf.jpg

ilikebikes 12-14-08 03:24 PM

May not be tha heavey as it appears to be made out of sheet metal? Kinda like duct work?

bmaxwell 12-14-08 03:51 PM

That is sweet, I bet a modern version of it could be made to look and function just like the old one but be a lot lot lighter but it does look very cool in a very retro yet modern way. I like, nice choice.

LesterOfPuppets 12-14-08 04:21 PM

So THAT's where Trimble got the idea for their frame shape, although they changed from a cross to a 4 to stiffen BB. Trimble frames are around 3 lbs. Get 'em to lay up a crazy fork like that and why not do up the rack in carbon fibre also. Then you'd have a light version of that.

The shifter is too hot! Is that real ivory?

129CBRider 11-20-12 10:47 PM

My '85 Marinoni Custom with full Campy group including wheels built by Wheelsmith with Campy hubs and Mavic rims.

cyclotoine 11-21-12 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by Otis (Post 8017466)
Ever driven a Rolls Royce? I have. And it does not translate into any type of analogy for a road bike.

I have not but I have ridden in a Bentley and yes it was a real Bentley, 1998 I think. I think a Rolls Royce is comparable to a Singer or Herse in that they are road touring cars and the choice of wealthy rally drivers in Europe. My Uncle was having his 1964 Silver Cloud freshened up for such endeavors. I think the singer or Herse comparison is very apt.

puchfinnland 11-21-12 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by Otis (Post 8017466)
Ever driven a Rolls Royce? I have. And it does not translate into any type of analogy for a road bike.

I have driven a few and it like driving a big pillow,
most memorable features was the super smooth shift lever and the door chime was like a organ note!

maybe you should re word your comparison,
but I have also driven a Ferrari and would not use that either...
my mind thinks of cars like GT-40, or Porsche 959's

Captain Blight 11-21-12 01:12 AM

RR=Singer/Herse
Bentley= Goeland
Lancia Works =Ugo De Rosa (of its ilk)
TVR=Raleigh Professional
AMG= Gazelle
Toyota 2000GT=Centurion Professional

You get the drift

frantik 11-21-12 01:19 AM

My 86 Diamondback Apex is like a Toyota pick up :D


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