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screwdriver 01-03-09 12:31 PM

What's the success rate using this tool?
 
I've got a freewheel that will not come off of my Shimano hub by the normal method. What's the success rate using a Park Tool SR-2.
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ManOnOneWheel 01-03-09 12:44 PM

Well, think about it. As you pedal, the freewheel tightens itself right. So to unthread it you need to turn it in the freewheel direction. Which means you can't turn the cogs, because they will freely spin in that direction.

You need a special tool/socket that has splines and fits inside the whole freewheel cassette mechanism like http://www.parktool.com/products/category.asp?cat=4. You could probably take the wheel to your LBS and they could pop it off for ya maybe even for free.

cyclotoine 01-03-09 12:45 PM

That is a shop grade chain-whip for removing lockrings or cogs on a freewheel, It will not help you get the freewheel off.

cuda2k 01-03-09 12:45 PM

never tried a chain whip on a freewheel. What has worked best for me is putting the freewheel tool in a vice that is secured to a bench and then get a couple of guys on the wheel rim. That is usually enough leverage and force to get the freewheel off. If not, then I doubt a chain whip would be enough.

dbakl 01-03-09 01:08 PM

you can always disassemble the freewheel and take the body off with a big pair of channel locks after the grooves strip off. that's my typical regina fix...

Grand Bois 01-03-09 01:11 PM

A chainwhip will only tighten a freewheel.

USAZorro 01-03-09 01:13 PM

If you're able to spin the chainwhip fast enough to generate the necessary friction to cause the components to expand and lock the little pawls inside the freewheel to jam, it might possibly lead to success. I simply can't sustain the 20,000 rpm for the 15-20 minutes necessary, and consequently, I lean towards using the proper tool for the job.

Besides, you can get 2-3 freewheel removers for the price of a chain whip.

-holiday76 01-03-09 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by cuda2k (Post 8117561)
What has worked best for me is putting the freewheel tool in a vice that is secured to a bench and then get a couple of guys on the wheel rim. That is usually enough leverage and force to get the freewheel off.

+1, in fact I just did this a few hours ago. I learned this trick after watching the guy at my lbs do it. It's saved me a few pairs of bloody knuckles so far.

triplebutted 01-03-09 01:55 PM

Without a vice, here's the old bike shop method:
Attach freewheel remover
Attach quick release skewer back on
Attach vice grip to freewheel remover
Put on a pair of good boots
Place vice grip handle in 9 o'clock position
Slam down hard on the vice grip with your boots.
Works every time

wrk101 01-03-09 06:05 PM

+1 I use a variation of triplebutted method. Be surre to attach skewer. Thats what holds the remover in place. The skewer should be snug, but not tight (needs to be loose enough that you can turn remover about a half turn).

Grand Bois 01-03-09 08:03 PM

Why use Visegrips instead of a large adjustable wrench?

onetwentyeight 01-03-09 08:07 PM

vise grips dont slip as much.

pastorbobnlnh 01-03-09 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by onetwentyeight (Post 8119557)
vise grips dont slip as much.

A big honkin pipe wrench slips even less. Took off an old Mallard freewheel this way once by removing the cogs first. Saved a beautiful pair of early '60s Normandy hubs this way. Best of luck.

Screwdriver, you need two chainwhips to remove the cogs of a freewheel first. One to hold the FW, the other to spin the first cog.

miamijim 01-03-09 08:45 PM

The success rate is 100% that you'll have a 0% chance of getting a freewheel off with a chain whip.

mudboy 01-03-09 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by cyclotoine (Post 8117560)
That is a shop grade chain-whip for removing lockrings or cogs on a freewheel, It will not help you get the freewheel off.

Quoted for truth. Won't do you a damn bit of good for a freewheel stuck on a hub.

Pete

leftthread 01-03-09 10:24 PM

Fwiw: a day ahead off the removal attempt, I lay the wheel flat, freewheel side down, and spray a boatload of penetrating oil or other lubricant into the space where the hub and freewheel meet.

You could also slip a length of hollow pipe over the end of the wrench handle for more leverage.

CACycling 01-04-09 10:24 AM

I use a methodsimilar to triplebutted but use a 12" adjustable wrench and a rubber mallet. Haven't missed yet.


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