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Old 01-26-19, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by justinsdrake View Post
Mountaindave - Your Stumpy is kind of what I was aiming for but maybe putting dirt drops on there. I have an 85 Schwinn Cimarron with fairly light tubing considering its vintage and original purpose. But as I am coming to understand, there is a tool (bike) for every job. N+1 right?

The MTB conversion is probably better to focus and build for more off pavement riding.
I met a retired guy who had that exact Cimarron and he had it set up for touring. He had full racks and would spend two or three days camping, following backroads over pavement and gravel to arrive at a local fundraiser century. Then he took the racks off, did the century, and started back home the next day. Very humble, unassuming old guy - I would never have guessed. I only recognized his repainted, undecaled bike from the uniquely brazed head tube. That guy flat out blew me away.

It certainly can be done. Just sayin’
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Old 01-26-19, 08:45 AM
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That’s a beauty. What are the hubs, Curtis Odom?
+1 and I can’t think of any other modern hub like that other than CO.
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Old 01-26-19, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen View Post
Remember on this thread we will talk about FAST bikes, that the fit cyclist can keep riding fast after 350 miles and counting.

I also had a LHT (purpose built touring bike), and while I certainly could ride it for a long time, I couldn't ride it fast for a long time without hurting.
That is my understanding , and it's I do not think a loaded touring bike or even a Grand Touring bike like an Expedition, Miyata 1000, or Trek 720 are especially good choices for Randonneur bikes . From what I understand most of these bikes were really more like racing bikes with a bag on them and less like the American definition of touring bikes. I am probably wrong in more than one way but that's kinda my understanding.

I actually plan to build my Grand Jubile up in more of a Randonneur style versus an actual touring bike because its lighter than my 520 or my LHT and it has a distinct lack of braze ons to meet my litmus of a touring bike. I also have a Soma Stanyan frameset that would probably make a fine Randonneur
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Old 01-26-19, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mountaindave View Post

+1 and I can’t think of any other modern hub like that other than CO.

Why not Phil Wood hubs ... Aren't they kinda considered the gold standard of bicycle hubs ?
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I need to rebuild the rear wheel but my 1993 Bridgestone XO 2 is the bike I keep going back to for long rides especially if the ride includes gravel. It has road geometry but it's built around 26 inch wheels and is an early example of what we would call today a gravel bike. I run it with 26 x 1.75 tires which are comfy on long rides. The bike is set up with generous gearing as well (3 x 8. 44/32/22 and 11-28)
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Old 01-26-19, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SamSpade1941 View Post
I also have a Soma Stanyan frameset that would probably make a fine Randonneur
I have a 1st generation Stanyan that's been doing good service as my winter/wet bike for the last few seasons.
If a geometry very similar to the classic British club machines and clearance for 700X28 tires with mudguards suit your requirements: Good to Go.

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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
I have a 1st generation Stanyan that's been doing good service as my winter/wet bike for the last few seasons.
If a geometry very similar to the classic British club machines and clearance for 700X28 tires with mudguards suit your requirements: Good to Go.

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I have the 2018 version , I am under the impression it will accommodate 32's under the fenders and 35's without according to my friend who owns the same bike, Tire sizes that are advertised rarely match up to the actual width though so there is that.
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Originally Posted by SamSpade1941 View Post
Why not Phil Wood hubs ... Aren't they kinda considered the gold standard of bicycle hubs ?
Not advocating for one hub over another, just trying to identify it. The hub sure looks like a Curtis Odom ‘Holey.’
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Originally Posted by mountaindave View Post

Not advocating for one hub over another, just trying to identify it. The hub sure looks like a Curtis Odom ‘Holey.’
You missed my question .. . I wasn't asking if they were Wood hubs . I saying why would anyone if they were going the custom route not just buy Wood hubs they are from what I can see superior to any other hub . Even other sealed bearing hubs do not seem to their reputation . I know cost is a factor but I can't imagine Curtis Odom hubs being cheaper .. Then again were cost the issue its gonna be Deore hubs all the way .
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Greetings from a fellow Bob Jackson owner Yours is awesome!
Tell me about the wheels - what tire, what rim, what spokes, what hub, who built them?
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Old 01-26-19, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SamSpade1941 View Post
You missed my question .. . I wasn't asking if they were Wood hubs . I saying why would anyone if they were going the custom route not just buy Wood hubs they are from what I can see superior to any other hub .
Ah. Well, you quoted me so I thought you were asking me. As to “why not choose PW?” only the OP can answer that. Aesthetically, it’s a no-brainer: Odom hubs FTW
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Originally Posted by mountaindave View Post

Ah. Well, you quoted me so I thought you were asking me. As to “why not choose PW?” only the OP can answer that. Aesthetically, it’s a no-brainer: Odom hubs FTW
They are pretty .
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Originally Posted by mountaindave View Post
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Not advocating for one hub over another, just trying to identify it. The hub sure looks like a Curtis Odom ‘Holey.’
Hi mountaindave,
Yes, Curtis Odom "Holey" with stainless steel hub centers. California Bicycle in La Jolla Ca. built the wheels, the rims are Mavic A719. I had the pleasure of meeting Curtis at the shop the day I picked them up. Three years later and quite a few miles the wheel set is as true as the day I picked them up.
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Originally Posted by SamSpade1941 View Post
You missed my question .. . I wasn't asking if they were Wood hubs . I saying why would anyone if they were going the custom route not just buy Wood hubs they are from what I can see superior to any other hub . Even other sealed bearing hubs do not seem to their reputation . I know cost is a factor but I can't imagine Curtis Odom hubs being cheaper .. Then again were cost the issue its gonna be Deore hubs all the way .
Hi Sam,
To answer your question, Phil Wood hubs are top line indestructible parts, I have an old set in a box somewhere, the styling doesn't talk to me, that's all. To me classic bikes are period pieces and there are certain items that define that narrow window of styling/function that define the period or set the tone for the build. For example the 1957 Raleigh Model 57 RRA was inspiration for the "visual feel" for the Bob Jackson, (actually the frame geometry is fairly close), The CO hubs were a natural fit for my bike.



Naturally fenders were always in the plan, Luck was on my side as Honjo made a small run of English pattern fenders that will clear 32 mm tires, I was lucky enough to find a set, a bit of a unicorn as I haven't seen them since.





So that was my thought process behind the selection of parts.
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Ooooooh boy! Now we just need to see those fenders on the bike! Looks like you achieved your goal of matching the style of the Raleigh too!
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Hi Sam,
To answer your question, Phil Wood hubs are top line indestructible parts, I have an old set in a box somewhere, the styling doesn't talk to me, that's all. To me classic bikes are period pieces and there are certain items that define that narrow window of styling/function that define the period or set the tone for the build. For example the 1957 Raleigh Model 57 RRA was inspiration for the "visual feel" for the Bob Jackson, (actually the frame geometry is fairly close), The CO hubs were a natural fit for my bike.



Naturally fenders were always in the plan, Luck was on my side as Honjo made a small run of English pattern fenders that will clear 32 mm tires, I was lucky enough to find a set, a bit of a unicorn as I haven't seen them since.





So that was my thought process behind the selection of parts.
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Makes perfect sense especially if you are trying to go with the period correct appearance. Nice bike by the way .
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To me classic bikes are period pieces and there are certain items that define that narrow window of styling/function that define the period or set the tone for the build. For example the 1957 Raleigh Model 57 RRA was inspiration for the "visual feel" for the Bob Jackson, (actually the frame geometry is fairly close), ...
Funny that you mention the RRA! I had a1948 RRA frame/fork that I loved, but I found myself continually looking for the"correct" parts for it. Lest I become completely OCD about it I decide to sell it. I really liked the way it rode, though. So i carefully measured all the frame angles etc and when the bike was gone I had a frame builder build me an exact copy, but with clearance for much fatter tires. It's a modern bike, 10 speed cassette, cantilever brakes, etc, but the geometry is classic. And I do like the way it rides, put several thousand miles on it last year.
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