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Old 03-20-12, 08:11 PM
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Old 03-20-12, 08:18 PM
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Or when you buy a freewheel and the guy at the checkout asks if you've got a chain-whip for that already...
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So... I am now working at MEC, in the bike shop. I'm finished the floor sales and bike builder training, and I have my first mechanic training session next week - YAY!! (And in three floor shifts I have sold three touring bikes, LOL)

I cannot promise there will be *no* stupid things uttered there, but considering every time a vintage bike comes in there's a Keystone Kops style jam in the doorway as *all* the mechanics and half the floor staff try to get to it and pet it, I think things will be pretty good on the whole. Which means I'll have to go lurk around OTHER shops to find things to laugh at

Over beers last week, one of the senior mechanics confided that he honestly believes bicycles have souls. I am SO in the right place.
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Old 03-26-12, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrome Molly View Post
Or when you buy a freewheel and the guy at the checkout asks if you've got a chain-whip for that already...
um really? you need a chain whip two actually if you want to change cogs on the freewheel... I know what your saying here however, that is half right...lol
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Old 03-26-12, 11:07 AM
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I always run a 28 wide tire in the rear and a 25 in the front. I'm constantly being told they don't match when I purchase at the bike store, and have to convince them yes, that's really what I want. Went through that yesterday.

Originally Posted by kc0yef View Post
um really? you need a chain whip two actually if you want to change cogs on the freewheel... I know what your saying here however, that is half right...lol
Yeah. but. Bought some of those years ago while filling out my tools, I don't think I've ever used them.
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Old 03-26-12, 11:55 AM
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I bought a pair of 9/16" pedals for my Columbia at a bike shop - brought them back to have the bearings adjusted because they were a bit tight. The mechanic tells me the pedals I bought cannot be adjusted. I tell him I bought them partly because they were adjustable, and it stated so on the packaging. He tells me then that while they can be adjusted, you may as well not because they're not really made for it and the adjustment is imprecise. So I say I want them adjusted anyway. Then he tells me he cannot find the 10mm wrench needed to adjust them... so I leave and never return.

Speaking of bearing adjustment, two years ago I stopped by the nearest shop to find headset lock nut for said columbia. The shop puts one on, and while doing so the guy inexplicably tightens up the bearing too. I comment on the notchiness of the bearing and he responds that you don't want the bearing too loose... I figure I can go home and adjust it in a minute anyway so why push the point. Well the nut they put on is larger than normal so I can't remove it with my wrench. Today (two years later) I decided to wrench it off with a vice grip - and lo and behold the fork crown race is cracked. Oh well.
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Old 03-26-12, 06:29 PM
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Not a single comment, but possibly an attitude?

In Richmond, Rowlett's bike shop which has been around since 1917 has just announced they're going out of business in the next six weeks. While I dropped by there for spokes, etc. six years ago when I got back into riding and building, I haven't been there in at least four years. Mainly because I was getting real tired about all the variations of the snippy, "Why do you insist on riding that old stuff? You should get yourself a carbon fiber bike and see how bikes have changed for the better."

I'm thinking of riding the Lenton down there in the next few days for a last visit, see what they've got on closeout.
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Not sure if I posted this already, but back in the 80's my borther and I overheard a cocky salesperson (track racer) snickered "Professional tourers" when a number of older cycle tourists walked in the bike shop when we were there shopping too. Now that i'm older, I'm thinking that I would have smacked Mr. Track hero on the side of the head with my Zefal frame pump if I heard that!
Never really liked that guy specially after my brother and I saw him again at the Brown Deer Velodrome one summer evening screaming for everyone else to get out of his way when he did his sprints around the track. Who does he think he was,........... some sort of East German track champion star or something??!

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Old 03-26-12, 06:57 PM
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These stories are incredible. I didn't know NJ's bike shops are so much better than shops in other states. But by these stories, they are. I can't think of a bad one. My local bike shop is High Gear Cyclery in Millburn, NJ. Excellent, excellent, excellent. I even worked there for two days a week this past summer. I didn't need the money. I just can't keep my hands off bikes. They don't cater much to old bikes, but they know about them.

For old bikes and parts, I go to The Bike Stand in Scotch Plains, NJ. The owner there is a genius.

Bikeland in Chatham, NJ is also pretty good.

I disagree with the guy who thought there's something wrong with paying $5 for a brake cable. You'd be surprised how many big ticket items are not profitable at bike shops. They have to make it up on some things. And think about the cost of stocking hundreds of different parts and keeping track of them.
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Old 03-26-12, 07:46 PM
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Funniest saying from the work shop....."hey Mike...you want any of that older outdated Campagnolo Stuff??" as they point to the box full of NOS bits and pieces......I always say, "well, let me see what I can put to good use, but only if I get them for a good price.."
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Old 03-26-12, 09:35 PM
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I contribute sales time at a shop seasonally so I could share plenty from both the employee side and the customer side. One of my favorites, though was "clipless pedals are like ski bindings, you wouldn't go skiing without them now would you?" Major face palms by all who overheard.
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I try to give a lot of leeway when I go in because 9 times out of 10 the sales employees are young guys (high school to 20s) who don't know everything but are put into a position where they are "experts". They don't know how to deal with customers that *do* know what they want.

With that said, I have no patience when the salesman is just plain wrong and won't back down. I needed some chain tugs for my daughter's 20" wheeled bike because the prior owner had cranked the rear wheel axle nuts down so tightly that they had "indexed" the drop out to the point where you could not get the chain tight enough to prevent it from dropping every ride. I knew that a set of track or bmx chain tugs would fix the problem, but the salesman kept saying "I really don't like to sell them because if it is properly adjusted, you won't need chain tugs." It was a new shop and happens to be the closest to my house. Never went in again.
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I needed a headset for a 1" fork, so I took in in to the LBS in to have measured.
I hoped they might have a correct crown race in the correct size.
The young mechanic slipped one that he found over the steerer to eyeball the fit and exclaimed that it would fit with a little grinding.
He was serious and actually walked over towards the bench grinder as I called him off with a "oh that's ok, I will work on that at home".

But it's true, they are mostly kids working for peanuts.
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I know a few shops well worth patronizing if only because they try so hard to be friendly and supportive. We were out on the tandem yesterday and when we stopped for lunch I noticed the stoker's BB looked odd. The French-thread bearing race on the right was coming unscrewed. (Well, we've ridden it maybe 600 miles since I assembled it, so if I didn't get it tight enough at least it was pretty good.) I made a quick cellphone call to Ride Studio Cafe in Lexington, about 6 miles away. The guy said sure come by and you can borrow our tools. So I threaded it back in as best I could by hand we we headed back to Lexington where we'd been just an hour earlier.

When we arrived the guy said he could do it or I could if I preferred. Then he handed me a crank extractor, a few BB wrenches (only 36mm though, I needed 38mm), and a BAW (Big Adjustable Wrench) in case the BB wrenches wouldn't fit. Because Sharon's crank is so short the arm of the BB extractor wouldn't go around past the pedal so they brought me a pedal wrench. Fifteen minutes later everything was back together!

Of course, they are a small cafe as well as rather specialized bike shop. Their inventory tends to Seven and Cervello, stuff like that. They even have a Seven tandem in the shop which gets ridden every so often. We were decidedly old-fashioned on our '82 Peugeot. But they didn't have to be so helpful. Every time we've been there we've come away happy from their very cheerfulness.

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These were soooo funny... Sad, but funny. I must be very lucky. Just recently started in the C&V hobby, having overhauled/refurbished 4 bikes now. The owner of my LBS (no one else works there) has been great. I live in a small rural area, a major city is an hour away. He, admittedly, doesn't know everything about every old bike such as model particulars, as I'm sure he hasn't seen everything there is to see. But he doesn't try to BS me. I don't spend alot there, but I do spend! For free: He has taken cotters off of the cranks of my 71 Raleigh Sports, adjusted my 70 Schwinn GT 100 derailleurs (two of them), and checked both my 70 Schwinn lightweights after I have rebuilt them, done minor truing on two wheels! At the same time showing/teaching/giving me tips. He has searched his shop for parts, saying, "I know I have one of those", always coming up with said part. He knows that I try to keep my costs down, so he doesn't try to sell me something I don't need/want.


If you are ever in Jackson, CA (Tues-Sat) and need something, check out Jackson Family Sports, Bill's the guy!


Maybe it's just me, but not sure I fully understand BS attitude about old bikes. They could, over the long haul, make money on one. If it's still around, chances are it will be around alot longer, and will need work/parts! But with the way most new things wear out, we might end up with bike shops only selling bikes and fewer mechanics!
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Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
Not sure if I posted this already, but back in the 80's my borther and I overheard a cocky salesperson (track racer) snickered "Professional tourers" when a number of older cycle tourists walked in the bike shop when we were there shopping too................i
This is why a bike shop or similar shop can mysteriously fail. The older cycle tourist will buy accessories and clothing, way more than a track rider. A Fred daddy buying 4 kiddy bikes & matching baskets is a better customer than the hanger-on who buys a tube every few months and complains about the cost. The LBS had better learn that it needs customers more than friends. Worse situation of all is when the "friends" start to interact with potential customers, often killing sales in the process.

Dumbest thing I've heard in the LBS was years ago when some majorly chubby 12-13 year old with his ATM dad insisted he needed a titanium sprocket because his bike was too heavy. Lay off the Captain Crunch, kid.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
These stories are incredible. I didn't know NJ's bike shops are so much better than shops in other states. But by these stories, they are. I can't think of a bad one. My local bike shop is High Gear Cyclery in Millburn, NJ. Excellent, excellent, excellent. I even worked there for two days a week this past summer. I didn't need the money. I just can't keep my hands off bikes. They don't cater much to old bikes, but they know about them.
High Gear is awesome! I grew up in New Providence NJ and got my first real bike there (a Trek 800 antelope) in 1990. Good memories, glad they're still going strong.
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Here's a cartoon post by Bikeyface posted on her blog. http://bikeyface.com/2012/04/12/60/.

Her cartoon commentary is soooo appropriate!

Enjoy, S
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I must be lucky. I have two LBS within 2 miles of the house. One's a one guy operation that's been a going concern for almost 40 years and has a stash of parts for guys like me. The other is fairly new but kind of like 'Cheers', they know your name. I can't say enough good about either one.

I did have an issue at the newer one a year or so ago, but that was with a supplier, not with them. They backed me. Story goes-I have an newer internal gear hub that wouldn't shift. It was still under warranty, so I brought it back to them. They had it a couple of days and called to say they were throwing in the towel, they don't know where to start. Could I come and help. (They'll be the first to say IG hubs scare them. They don't scare me.) So, I start to tear down the hub at the shop and I find the problem, a rust issue that wouldn't have happened if newer hubs were still oil bath instead of greased. I call the hub rep and try to order replacement parts. Can't get just what I need, need to order the entire guts. Because the hub was under warranty they would have replaced the guts free of charge but because I opened it up, I voided the warranty.

Saying I went ballistic would have been an under statement. The rep then insists on speaking with the shop owner or a mechanic. The shop owner puts the guy on speaker and before he call tell him he is on speaker, he goes on about "dip**** customers tearing things apart they know nothing about." At which point, the shop owner tells him that "that dip**** customer does my IG work for me. He knows more about these things than we do." "BTW, you're on speaker." Dead silence for awhile. The owner said "we'll talk later", and hung up. I wasn't privy to follow up call but I did fix my hub without anything from the supplier.
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