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hsifdab 02-16-09 11:28 AM

Help Me Build This Woodrup?
 
Hi everyone, I recently acquired this Woodrup frame. I am still pretty new to cycling, so I feel intimidated, yet excited, at the task of building up this frame on my own. To be honest, I'm not quite sure where to start. I know the bottom bracket is standard English threaded, but I'm not sure what BB to purchase. I measured the rear spacing and I'm pretty sure it's 125mm, so that means a 6-7 speed cassette? I don't know which sort of hubs I should get, what derailleur(front and rear), etc. The drivetrain is the most confusing part for me. I think the headset already on it is Campagnolo NR. I'm sort of on a budget as well, but I want to keep it looking classy. Also, if you see anything wrong with the frame, or notice any thing I should do to prep it, please let me know. Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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hsifdab 02-16-09 11:28 AM

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rotharpunc 02-16-09 11:34 AM

I don't know much about this brand, but I think Campy Nuovo Record would have been period correct. Also, is that a guy on a bike on the brake bridge? thats pretty cool.

cudak888 02-16-09 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by rotharpunc (Post 8369656)
Also, is that a guy on a bike on the brake bridge? thats pretty cool.

It's the pantographed logo for importer Ten Speed Drive. Guess that leaves no question as to how this machine arrived here.

I gather that the pantographing would also suggest that the frame was sent bare and painted/cold set/perfected by TSD.

-Kurt

hsifdab 02-16-09 12:02 PM

That's an interesting piece of information, thanks.

plodderslusk 02-16-09 01:20 PM

http://velospace.org/node/7655 :one way to do it
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...al_numbers.htm : seems to be a 81-82 frame, could be a great audax-type bike, good luck with the build.

Six jours 02-16-09 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by hsifdab (Post 8369616)
Hi everyone, I recently acquired this Woodrup frame. I am still pretty new to cycling, so I feel intimidated, yet excited, at the task of building up this frame on my own. To be honest, I'm not quite sure where to start. I know the bottom bracket is standard English threaded, but I'm not sure what BB to purchase. I measured the rear spacing and I'm pretty sure it's 125mm, so that means a 6-7 speed cassette? I don't know which sort of hubs I should get, what derailleur(front and rear), etc. The drivetrain is the most confusing part for me. I think the headset already on it is Campagnolo NR. I'm sort of on a budget as well, but I want to keep it looking classy. Also, if you see anything wrong with the frame, or notice any thing I should do to prep it, please let me know. Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

That's a very nice frame in very nice shape. Congratulations.

The headset and shifters are Campagnolo Super Record/Nuovo Record. Putting an entire Nuovo or Super Record group on the bike would be perfect. That's awfully hard to do on a budget, though. The only realistic possibility is searching the internet and Ebay for decent used parts, which is what I would do in your shoes. Unless you know exactly what to look for in terms of use/abuse, you can get burned though. You can also find new or near-new, but there's no "budget" way to do that, as far as I know.

The rear spacing is almost certainly 126 mm, or was supposed to be, anyway. That is standard 6 speed or "Ultra" 7 speed. It's not a cassette, it's a freewheel.

My honest suggestion is to post your location and hope someone knowledgeable is nearby. It's very difficult to help someone assemble a bike long-distance, but "classic and vintage" guys are usually among the most friendly and helpful in the bike world. If you can find a local, there's a good chance he'd be very helpful and enthusiastic.

Noah Scape 02-16-09 03:19 PM

I have the same frame and approximately the same vintage and I love it. As far as the build goes, what kind of riding do you plan to do?

Mike Mills 02-16-09 03:43 PM

Other than the fenders, this is EXACTLY! what I would have suggested. Perfect response, Plodderslusk.

http://velospace.org/files/IMG_6535.jpg


P.S. - Great bike, overall. I love that fork crown, in particular.

If it were mine, at my current age, I'd go with as large a spread in the freewheel as possible. In this case, that means 14T - 26T in the rear. This is readily available in 6 and Ultra-7 speed configurations. I like a 3T differential up front. I run 47T/50T these days. If you want a lower bottom gear, go 42/45T up front. These combinations work really well. If you want real touring gears, you need a long cage rear derailleur. Then you can go to a 34T rear cog.

Road Fan 02-16-09 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Mills (Post 8371247)
Other than the fenders, this is EXACTLY! what I would have suggested. Perfect response, Plodderslusk.

http://velospace.org/files/IMG_6535.jpg


P.S. - Great bike, overall. I love that fork crown, in particular.

If it were mine, at my current age, I'd go with as large a spread in the freewheel as possible. In this case, that means 14T - 26T in the rear. This is readily available in 6 and Ultra-7 speed configurations. I like a 3T differential up front. I run 47T/50T these days. If you want a lower bottom gear, go 42/45T up front. These combinations work really well. If you want real touring gears, you need a long cage rear derailleur. Then you can go to a 34T rear cog.

I think you can get 13-26.

I have a Woodrup Giro from just before the Ten Speed drive era. It looks just like this one. Campy NR is of course a good choice, but so are newer gruppos. The threads are English, English, and more English. Mine had Campy Veloce Racing T 52/42/30 and has just been gifted with a Veloce Compact 50/34. Freewheel is 13-24 7-speed Sachs, and I use a Racint T rear derailleur in both configurations. My brakes are nutted mid-reach Shimano Dura-Ace 1st generation with Modolo levers -- odd but it all works. There isn't a huge amount of radial clearance. I can fit 28 mm Gatorskins with P35 fenders, but there really isn't much room for more - if you'd like to audax on that, you can.

I've also used a 13-34 Shimano Megarange cogset on it with a Duopar.

Brooks Pro, Nitto Randonneurs, vintage Campy/Mavic tubular wheels now with 23 mm Vittoria Rallye, Campy Chorus platform toeclip pedals, Suntour downtube shifters, Tech Deluxe stem, American Classic seatpost, hmmm what else ... I'm thinking of a decaleur with front rack for a front bag. Ohh, it has a downtube water bottle set and an under-downtube set.

Chris W. 02-16-09 05:06 PM

You have a killer bike in the works! I had a Woodrup giro-touring way back in 82 (I still kick myself for letting it go...) Mine was blue with matching blue Blumels fenders. Phil Wood hubs, BB, and pedles, 6 speed freeweel. Huret duopar RD. Campy shifters, FD, NR crankset 42/50, seat post, and headset. It started with universal #61 center-pulls, ended with Campy brakes. Ideale 90 sadle. Chinelli bars and stem.

If I had yours today, I'd watch for any good deals on TA or Stronglight cranks, Mafac centerpulls,
Campy high flange hubs (or Phil Wood), brooks sadle etc. Just my .02 cents

Good luck!
Chris

Mike Mills 02-16-09 08:05 PM

I think you are absolutely correct about the freewheels being 13-26 and 13-34. This is a good thing, too, as I have taken to using chainwheels that are smaller than the ubiquitous 52T, as it results in a very useable high gear ratio.

If you stay in the 26T (28T max) large cog, you can use a Nuovo Record rear derailleur. If you go for the 34T freewheel cog, get a good, long-cage rear derailleur.

Road Fan 02-16-09 08:27 PM

hfisdab, my Woodrup is extremely similar to yours, but my decals are about 1000% worse.

YoKev 02-17-09 05:40 AM

Beautiful Woodrup! Your paint is in much better shape than mine, but I believe mine to be the same model even though there are no decals declaring so.

I built mine up with a spare Dura Ace 7400 group I had kicking around, but I opted for 8-speed brifters. The wheels were borrowed from another bike, and now I don't use that bike :lol:

Best,
Kevin

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norskagent 02-17-09 08:43 AM

bid (up to your $ limit) on a bike like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/60cm-61cm-Vintag...3A1%7C294%3A50
strip the parts, resell the frame -


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