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Old 02-02-19, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WGB
Who steers???
Actually, either/both, once the chain connecting the stems to the steerer is replaced.

But Rube's idea is more fun, would be a riot to watch.
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Originally Posted by madpogue
Actually, either/both, once the chain connecting the stems to the steerer is replaced.

But Rube's idea is more fun, would be a riot to watch.
Look again, left side has a gear at the bottom of its headtube.
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If you have $500 burning a hole in your pocket and you want stares while riding (if this ever goes into production), this is your lucky day! This might actually work - until the first semi goes blasting past.

https://newatlas.com/cyclewing-bicycle-sail/58303/
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Originally Posted by PilotFishBob
If you have $500 burning a hole in your pocket and you want stares while riding (if this ever goes into production), this is your lucky day! This might actually work - until the first semi goes blasting past.

https://newatlas.com/cyclewing-bicycle-sail/58303/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...n-for-bicycles

Interesting device.

However, it is rare that I'll get a tailwind that is going faster than my bike.

Now, the sail should be most useful in a strong cross-wind. But, ohhh, that could be tough fighting the cross-wind.

I think if I was going to do something like that, I'd build it into a custom trike or quad. Get the sail, rider weight, and all of those forces as low as possible.

One could physically move the mast towards the wind to reduce tipping.

Perhaps even move the seat and pedals towards the wind. Or incorporate enough of a bench seat that the rider could "high side".

But, with the perfect sail trike/quad, it isn't going to be $500.

Watching the video, it doesn't appear as if the riders are actually riding with a wind.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
375 for bike+tools+accessories is a good deal
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Originally Posted by curbtender
Look again, left side has a gear at the bottom of its headtube.
Look yet again, the right side has a bolt coming out the bottom of its headtube. A sprocket may have been mounted there. I vaguely recall seeing other side-by-sides like this, and I think the steering chain somehow tied both stems to the steerer; I just don't remember the mechanical details.
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Originally Posted by madpogue
Look yet again, the right side has a bolt coming out the bottom of its headtube. A sprocket may have been mounted there. I vaguely recall seeing other side-by-sides like this, and I think the steering chain somehow tied both stems to the steerer; I just don't remember the mechanical details.
On that example the left side has actual headset bearings, while the right side appears to be bolted solid. Nevermind that, what I want to know is with those Q factors how do you pedal it without bashing your ankle and shin bones bloody
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Looks like you could move that whole setup to another cruiser.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad
375 for bike+tools+accessories is a good deal
Looks like the price has been dropped to $300.

BikeHand YC-748 seems to be about $100 new. Plus 2 pumps & miscellaneous accessories.

It probably would be a good starter set. Most of it is redundant with what I already have, and not a bike I'd purchase for $200.

Still, it might be worth it to buy, flip the bike, then give the tools to my brother/nephew/niece. If I can keep them interested in bicycles.

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Originally Posted by curbtender
Looks like you could move that whole setup to another cruiser.
The frame looks solid enough. Just needs a bit of rust treatment here and there.

Maybe new wheels & tires. Plus misc parts, headset, chains, etc.

I think the legs would fit into the cranks OK. There would be many problems with making it wider including the nerrower, the better the balance, and a low bottom bracket would make pedal strikes from cornering on that tough already.

Ontario?

It might be a fun bike if it was local. How much for the Carbon Fiber version?

It really needs some side-to-side adjustment, so one could balance a 130 pound rider and a 200 pound rider. PHYSICS.
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Iím not going to make it to 60 with all my parts intact. But I think this is more like six.

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Iíve long imagined something like that Cycle Wing but my notion was arranged more like a wind surfing board. I could never think how to manage it at the same time as steering and pedaling a bicycle. Maybe hold it like a shield?
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Another "speechless" listing:

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/b...805179647.html

Raleigh Super Course MK II Bike Bicycle - $300 (Schaumburg)

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As I age (now 65), when I look at bikes with "unusual" cockpits, I mentally cut the guy some slack. I'm sure there are people younger than me who have either given up on cycling, or switched to recumbents. Wacky? Sure. Still, if it keeps the guy on his bike, I say, "whatever works." Many people of a certain age are wondering how they can get some lower gears without sacrificing "the look." Maybe we're the weird ones, and the guy above is "normal."

I still need to return to my neighbor and take some pictures of his great-grandfather's all chrome Frejus. While not as strange looking as the above Raleigh, it clearly showed evidence of adaptation over the years as Jim's great grandpa aged. I believe it had a triple conversion up front, and might have a Rally rear derailleur in place of the original Record or Nuovo Record. Something different about the cockpit too, I think. It's been several months and I only saw it once.

But I digress. Not meaning this to seem like a rant. As you were...
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Originally Posted by PilotFishBob
If you have $500 burning a hole in your pocket and you want stares while riding (if this ever goes into production), this is your lucky day! This might actually work - until the first semi goes blasting past.

https://newatlas.com/cyclewing-bicycle-sail/58303/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...n-for-bicycles

A couple of T-Shirt bids, and 2 people wanting "wings", I think they may fall slightly short of their $75,000 "minimum" (150 wings).

I think they really need more development and testing before going full kickstarter on this one.

Pretty optimistic on the timeline too.

Kickstarter in February.
Shipping complete units in November (this year).
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Pretty optimistic on the timeline too.

Kickstarter in February.
Shipping complete units in November (this year).
Not to mention rather timing, launching a bike accessory in November. So yeah, it's probably more realistic to see a spring '20 ship date, which would be in their favor anyway.
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Originally Posted by madpogue
Not to mention rather timing, launching a bike accessory in November. So yeah, it's probably more realistic to see a spring '20 ship date, which would be in their favor anyway.
Depends...

Do the wind storms come in November?
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In the midwest, the wind blows all year. But MOST cyclists put their bikes up by November, or at least they're not thinking about anything "new" for their bikes.

And yes, in a strong windstorm, Depends might be recommended.

Oh, wait, you meant... oh sorry, never mind.....
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Originally Posted by madpogue
In the midwest, the wind blows all year. But MOST cyclists put their bikes up by November, or at least they're not thinking about anything "new" for their bikes.

And yes, in a strong windstorm, Depends might be recommended.

Oh, wait, you meant... oh sorry, never mind.....
But, can you attach it to your toboggan?

Sled on ice?
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Shimano Dura Ace CS-9000 11 Speed 12-28 Cassette $75





The small sprocket also has 11T, not 12T.

A brand new 105/5800 cassette costs less than the asking price for that used cassette.
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But, can you attach it to your toboggan?

Sled on ice?
Somewhere, on a frozen lake in the north woods, someone has in all likelihood tried. And no doubt, the words "hold my beer" were heard.....

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Shimano Dura Ace CS-9000 11 Speed 12-28 Cassette $75

A brand new 105/5800 cassette costs less than the asking price for that used cassette.
But a new one won't have those nice custom chipped teeth (look like chips to me, and not ramps) on the 12-er.
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Originally Posted by madpogue
Another "speechless" listing:

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/b...805179647.html

Raleigh Super Course MK II Bike Bicycle - $300 (Schaumburg)

Probably what the person's car looks like:

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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Depends...

Do the wind storms come in November?
That's when the gales arrive on Gitche Gumee

Originally Posted by Gordon Lightfoot
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they called 'gitche gumee'
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and crew was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early

The ship was the pride of the American side
Coming back from some mill in Wisconsin
As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most
With a crew and good captain well seasoned
Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
When they left fully loaded for Cleveland
And later that night when the ship's bell rang
Could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?

The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound
And a wave broke over the railing
And every man knew, as the captain did too,
T'was the witch of November come stealin'
The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
When the gales of November came slashin'
When afternoon came it was freezin' rain
In the face of a hurricane west wind

When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin'
Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya
At seven pm a main hatchway caved in, he said
Fellas, it's been good t'know ya
The captain wired in he had water comin' in
And the good ship and crew was in peril
And later that night when his lights went outta sight
Came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
The searches all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
If they'd put fifteen more miles behind her
They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters

Lake Huron rolls, superior sings
In the rooms of her ice-water mansion
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams
The islands and bays are for sportsmen
And farther below Lake Ontario
Takes in what Lake Erie can send her
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
With the gales of November remembered

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed,
In the maritime sailors' cathedral
The church bell chimed till it rang twenty-nine times
For each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call 'gitche gumee'
Superior, they said, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early
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