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Old 04-22-09, 03:28 PM
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handle bar bottle cages

i love the look of handlebar mounted water bottles, and i like the idea of having them right in front of me.

does anyone use these? what do you think of them?


i want to make a bracket myself, but i cant really find any decent pictures of this kind of mount. can anyone offer some up as some inspiration for my own?
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Old 04-22-09, 03:58 PM
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I just got a cheapie one made by the company minoura, It's nice, works great and it's cheap, i think like $7
https://www.tri-zone.com/Details.html?cat=87&item=MNHCH


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Old 04-22-09, 04:09 PM
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I bolted a cage to the reflector bracket on my '77 Le Tour. Worked so well I did it on my wife's '78 Le Tour and she thought it was great as well. Here's a pic.

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I have the Minoura handlebar mount also. For $7 its hard to beat.

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Old 04-22-09, 04:23 PM
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My bracket came from Velo Orange. It's cheaper than the cheap Minoura and twice as nice.

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Old 04-22-09, 05:24 PM
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I did a double bottle mount with the Velo-Orange adapter, ok, but a little funky. If you can find an original TA bottle cage, those are sweet.
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Old 04-22-09, 05:55 PM
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Funny, I'd describe the T.A. as funky compared to the Velo Orange. The only problem I have with the Velo Orange is that it's not vintage and it doesn't even look like it is. I had to machine mine to get it to fit the sleeved part of the bar.
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Old 04-22-09, 06:11 PM
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My early 1970's Paramount is without bottle cage braze-ons, and since I didn't want to clutter up the tubes I put a Minoura handlebar double cage holder on. Looks pretty sharp.
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Old 04-22-09, 06:15 PM
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I have one on my old bike that is 30 years old. I don't know the brand and it is a little beat but I will get you a couple of pics if you are interested.
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the minoura mount can be centered on the stem, the velo orange one looks like it needs to be offset, is that true?

the only thing i dislike about the minoura mount is it's black, i thought about painting it silver, but with the cage mounted on it i don't notice the color at all. I'm thinking about ordering a velo orange retro cage to use with the mount

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here's a setup i had for a short time with those vo cages above and the vo bar mounts.





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Yes, the Velo Orange mount must be offset. You need a cage that grips the bottle if you're going to to use a metal bottle. Otherwise, the rattling will drive you nuts. I speak from experience. That's why I chose the cage I did. The VO retro cage grips, but it's all metal to metal contact, so I'm dubious.

The bottle should be at the same angle as the head tube for maximum visual appeal. Mine is the only one that isn't mounted wrong.
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The vo setup I had would make some noise, but it won't if you do this:

https://epicureancyclist.blogspot.com...e-holders.html

As for visual appeal, I believe Dirtdrop has it backwards, they need to be mounted opposite as the head tube angle, ie if you head tube is at 11 oclock your bottles would be at 1
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Old 04-22-09, 06:42 PM
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Dirtdrop has it right. The rest of the world has it backwards.
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Old 04-22-09, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop View Post
Funny, I'd describe the T.A. as funky compared to the Velo Orange.
Well, the TA is designed for handlebar mount and mounts securely. The Velo-Orange setup places the bottles pretty high for my tastes, and tends to be not very secure: the whole setup rotates on the bars quite a bit. But maybe I'm just too oldschool...

But bar mount is cool, and the perfect place; I'm surprised it hasn't been resurrected.
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Old 04-22-09, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BlankCrows View Post
My early 1970's Paramount is without bottle cage braze-ons, and since I didn't want to clutter up the tubes I put a Minoura handlebar double cage holder on. Looks pretty sharp.

Dang, that looks good. Wonder who made that setup? Can you still get?
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Well, the TA is designed for handlebar mount and mounts securely. The Velo-Orange setup places the bottles pretty high for my tastes, and tends to be not very secure: the whole setup rotates on the bars quite a bit. But maybe I'm just too oldschool...

But bar mount is cool, and the perfect place; I'm surprised it hasn't been resurrected.
i agree the bottles are high, but mounted correctly they dont rotate one bit.
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Originally Posted by dbakl View Post
But bar mount is cool, and the perfect place; I'm surprised it hasn't been resurrected.
Quite a lot of the bikes I've seen fitted with a bionx have handlebar mount bottle cages because the battery is secured on the downtube bottle cage bolts. Usually, very freddy bikes.


My UO-9 Peugeot has twin minoura bottle cage mounts on the handlebars, totally love em, but they would be better if teh handlebars had aero levers, imo.

These things, with alu colored alu bottle cages on em:
https://www.cippsites.com/Merchant4/m...ore_Code=ANGLE

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I like the style of the old REG mounts. These new ones just don't look right.
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Bar Bottles are very cool. If Eddy had one, how can you refuse?
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Love the shortie fenders! All it needs is Cenelli Splash tape!

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Originally Posted by -holiday76 View Post
here's a setup i had for a short time with those vo cages above and the vo bar mounts.





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I have a t.a. floating around in my junk pile somewhere, and I have to say it looks a lot more natural to me than the fredly modern ones. I used to use it on special occasions when I thought I'd need more water than usual. But I think it might leave something to be desired with the larger water bottles we use nowadays. Classic water bottles were 8oz smaller.
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Vintage REG handlebar mount to match the REG frame mount.

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I like the style of the old REG mounts. These new ones just don't look right.
Agreed, all the ones shown above sit way to high. Here's the style REG I like:

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Here's a couple with the Minoura clamp. My '78 Trek TX-900 and my brother-in-law's '73 Fuji S-10-S. Sure beats using a metal cage clamp on the down tube.
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