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Old 05-19-09, 08:20 AM
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The tires are $15 Fortre Gothams from Performance.

the brakes are rollercam brakes, and are the only original component on the bike.

Roller-cam Brake

A type of brake which uses a triangular cam. It has two see-saw like arms, pivoted in the middle on cantilever-type studs. The cam is pulled by the cable, which is attached to the narrow end. As the cam is pulled, its sloping sides push outward on rollers which are attached to the upper end of the brake arms. Roller-cam brakes permit the use of variable ratios by making the sides of the cam curve instead of being straight. Typically this is done to make the shoes travel in toward the rim fast, then more slowly as they engage...this gives more mechanical advantage in the actual braking range of travel, while allowing the shoes to back off farther from the rim than they would be able to if the mechanical advantage was consistent throughout the travel range.
Compared to normal cantilevers, rollercams have the advantage of not protruding past the sides of the frame, which made them popular in the lae '80's when there was a fad for placing the rear brake under the chainstays...you couldn't use conventional cantilevers there, because the cranks would bump into them.
Unfortunately, roller cams are more difficult to set up than conventional cantilevers, and they make for more difficult wheel changes.
Roller-cam cantilevers do not work on cantilever studs made for conventional cantilevers, because conventional cantilever studs are mounted inward from the rim, while roller-cam studs are outward from the rim. "U-brake" cantilevers are interchangeable with rollercams.
With both roller cams and U-brakes, there is a tendency for the brake shoes to strike higher and higher on the rim as the pads wear. If the pads are not checked regularly, they eventually start to rub on the sidewall of the tire, which destroys the tire in short order. The Odyssey "Pitbull" is a caliper-type rollercam unit, popular in BMX and recumbent applications

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Bump for someone interested in the frame.
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Custer, you are probably tired of talking about your 87 High Sierra, but I just purchased one, and have a couple questions, as your first setup on it was cool to me. What kind of stem setup is that? I like the low, forward, modern stylings of it alot. Trying to turn my stock 87 High Sierra into a zippy commuter similar to that. Thanks.

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I have a black-over-chrome Sierra from that same era, 87 or 88 I guess. It's the bike that got me back into bicycling, I've had for about 5 years or so. I just put on a pair of Velo-Orange stainless steel fenders (currently on sale) and they really complement the look of the bike! Although the bike is a tad small for me, I still enjoy using it for running small errands around town. I want to try another style of handlebar and get away from the basically flat bar it has now. I also think I'll put on some Panaracer RiBMo's, my current favorite commuter tire.
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TTT!! After years of searching, and even passing one up in my size while visiting Athens, GA a few years ago... One in my size just dropped out of the sky onto my head, lol! Smoked chrome is in very good shape, roller cams, all original except for saddle and tires. Even the cables are original. I said $150, he countered with $200, and then we struck a deal at $180. Funny thing, that was the EXACT price of the one I passed on in Athens, and about the same condition too. We agreed I am picking it up on Wednesday, and we shook on the deal. SUPER excited, as I have only ever seen them, yet only owned the yellow, and brown/beige models made a year or two after the smoked chrome.,,,,BD

It even has the seat tube rear brazed on pump mount!
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Resurrecting a not too old string. A few months ago I purchased a mint '86 High Sierra in the ivory and brown scheme (brown for the seat stays). Got it for $80. I've been using it as a commuter/grocery bike. Even though it's mint, I'll be spending this winter taking it apart and putting Boeshield on everything, including inside the frame, changing out cables and housing. Eventual plan is to convert to drops and barcons (I bought a Miyata 210 a few weeks ago that I'm stripping everything from for parts. It has a great old randonneur handlebar. Not sure whether the stem will translate, as I haven't done the research yet).

The mid '80s HS is just a great, great bike: tri-cal chromo frame, roller cam breaks, suntour XC derailleurs, mid fork mounts for rack, etc. It's beyond me why people spend $1,000+ for new when these great old bikes are falling out of the sky in fabulous condition.
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Resurrecting a not too old string. A few months ago I purchased a mint '86 High Sierra in the ivory and brown scheme (brown for the seat stays). Got it for $80. I've been using it as a commuter/grocery bike. Even though it's mint, I'll be spending this winter taking it apart and putting Boeshield on everything, including inside the frame, changing out cables and housing. Eventual plan is to convert to drops and barcons (I bought a Miyata 210 a few weeks ago that I'm stripping everything from for parts. It has a great old randonneur handlebar. Not sure whether the stem will translate, as I haven't done the research yet).

The mid '80s HS is just a great, great bike: tri-cal chromo frame, roller cam breaks, suntour XC derailleurs, mid fork mounts for rack, etc. It's beyond me why people spend $1,000+ for new when these great old bikes are falling out of the sky in fabulous condition.
I've had one for 20 years- it's a cool bike.

I finally got mine coverted to drops- I don't know what it is about the bike- but it's just not happening for me. I know how cool it is. It looks cool, it's got cool parts and it's designed and built as a "go anywhere" bike- as much so as a Long Haul Trucker. I'll give it more of a chance next summer- other wise I'll let someone else find a cool bike.

As far as yours goes- the stem should be fine. Regular brake levers should be fine. I've had difficulty in setting up the roller cams, but other people have had no problems at all.

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I've owned a few High Sierra bikes over the years, '87 black chrome, and two '88 in Schwinn Lemon, one currently serves as my wife's farmers' market bike. The High Sierra is a tig welded frame but not all the years had fillet brazed head tube. I believe the '86 came in ivory with black stays, that year has a tig welded head tube like the Sierra. My true love from this era were the '85-'89 Cimarrons, lugged double butted CrMo frame with fillet brazed head tube, the best of everything in my opinion. I own a green '85, a red '87, a black '88, and a green '88 LE model. The paint on my '88 LE was really hammered, so last summer I restored the bike but not to original. I opted to go with the color I always wished they made. I also built it up with Shimano "Deerhead" XT parts from a donor '85 Cimarron, I bought the cracked frame for the XT group with the restoration in mind.

Here are a few pics of the fillet brazing (real brass, not bondo as some have alleged) and my '88 LE:
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MIne is an 85 I bought it about 3 years ago for 50 bucks, had maybe 20 miles on it..I ride it sometime but I find it uncomfortable
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Lovin' mine.
My High Sierra is a winter commuter.

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Lovin' mine.
My High Sierra is a winter commuter.

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Nicely done!! The color combo of the seats/grips, and frame, makes it very interesting to look at. That combo has always been one of my favorites in cars as well.,,,,BD

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Nicely done!! The color combo of the seats/grips, and frame, makes it very interesting to look at. That combo has always been one of my favorites in cars as well.,,,,BD
Thanks BD, much appreciated.
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MIne is an 85 I bought it about 3 years ago for 50 bucks, had maybe 20 miles on it..I ride it sometime but I find it uncomfortable
Many people don't realize that Schwinn completely redesigned the Cimarron, High Sierra and Sierra frames in '87. They went from having 70 degree head and seat tube angles and a 42.75" (1085mm) wheelbase (21" frame) in '85-'86 to a 70 degree head combined with a much less layed back 72.5 degree seat tube and also a longer 43.5" (1106mm) wheelbase (but with shorter chainstays for improved climbing) in '87 and up.
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Many people don't realize that Schwinn completely redesigned the Cimarron, High Sierra and Sierra frames in '87. They went from having 70 degree head and seat tube angles and a 42.75" (1085mm) wheelbase (21" frame) in '85-'86 to a 70 degree head combined with a much less layed back 72.5 degree seat tube and also a longer 43.5" (1106mm) wheelbase (but with shorter chainstays for improved climbing) in '87 and up.
SO is that why I find mine uncomfortable? Did the changes make it a better bike?
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I believe Schwinn certainly considered the changes as improvements. The '87 model changes were announced to dealers in the Oct. '86 Schwinn Eagle newsletter:

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I believe Schwinn certainly considered the changes as improvements. The '87 model changes were announced to dealers in the Oct. '86 Schwinn Eagle newsletter:

I guess "better bike for what?" is the question. I have a '91 Schwinn PDG Series 70 for my mountain bike. Love it, love it, love it. Fits me like a glove, very maneuverable, climbs well, etc. My '86 High Sierra is my commuter/hauler that I'm going to give another slash to (tourer) by converting to drops and barcons. The more relaxed angles and longer chain stays make it a much better bike for that.
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By the way, does anyone have a good web link for adjusting the roller cams? Mine are just a bit caddywhompus, and before I just start mucking around I might as well ask whether there's a decent resource out there.
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By the way, does anyone have a good web link for adjusting the roller cams? Mine are just a bit caddywhompus, and before I just start mucking around I might as well ask whether there's a decent resource out there.
I can't get to it now, but there's actually a Suntour setup sheet that floats around.




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not a schwinn, but a trek 930.. made new as the OP stated..
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I have a Schwinn Mirada which I believe shares the frame with the High Sierra but with lower end components.
It has Shimano light Action shifters. It is my bomb proof beater bike.
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I have a Schwinn Mirada which I believe shares the frame with the High Sierra but with lower end components.
Each of the frames were different back then, you can see the '85 specs here: http://bikecatalogs.org/SCHWINN/1985...fications.html

Also note that the Mirada frame geometry didn't change in '87 like the Sierra, High Sierra and Cimarron.
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My High Sierra is an '86, originally in Ivory. I bought the frame and modified it slightly with my torch, then repainted it. I rebuilt it and updated it to 9 spd.
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Hey ClemY,

I have never seen fully lugged High Sierra. The '86 my buddy owns in ivory with brown stays is a fully tig'd frame (no lugs or fillet brazing). Do you have any "before" photos of your High Sierra? I'm intrigued by your frame as it doesn't seem to match the specs on the MOMBAT site.

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Hey ClemY,

I have never seen fully lugged High Sierra. The '86 my buddy owns in ivory with brown stays is a fully tig'd frame (no lugs or fillet brazing). Do you have any "before" photos of your High Sierra? I'm intrigued by your frame as it doesn't seem to match the specs on the MOMBAT site.

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I don't have any before photos. It was ivory, with a seatpost stuck in the frame due to corrosion. By the time I had removed the seatpost the paint job was shot, which only provided me an excuse to make a couple of mods with a torch prior to having it painted. At the moment I don't remember what I did to it, but it came together nicely.
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