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FOUND ONE! A 54CM frame!!!!

Old 05-18-09, 10:15 AM
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FOUND ONE! A 54CM frame!!!!

Its a bianchi course, the seller wants 325 cad for it, anyone think this is a decent deal? or should i hold out.
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Old 05-18-09, 10:19 AM
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What that in real money? $275?

Columbus tubing, looks like a full 105 group. If its ride ready and its in good condition $275 as an end user is OK, not bad, not great, but OK.
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Old 05-18-09, 10:22 AM
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sorry, should have added this

325.00monopoly money= 278.940 USD

if the seller is flexible, what would be considered a fair, good price for this bike?
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+1 Spotless, ready to ride, full market = $275. Adjust down for any defects/shortcomings. Adjust down to where you feel the "deal" is good.

Looks like a pretty nice bike, and if it is what you have been looking for, go for it.
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Old 05-18-09, 10:39 AM
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Heres the sellers blab about this bike:

black/Bianchi green 54cm/22in frame, lugged columbus steel tubing, made in Italy.Full shimano 105 derailliers, hubs,headset,chainset. Shimano 105 SLR brakes. Wheels ambrosio elite italia rims, SS spokes, quick release, Tires IRC 700x20c Triathlon 100psi. Selle Italia saddle(Bianchi green) Chainset 52/42
Cassette 12/22. This is a beautiful light fast road bike in great condition. Reason for selling 73 years old, and you have to stop riding fast bikes somtime. Price $325.


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what should i be looking for for defects? Ill take it for a spin and look for anything bad, should this bike be equipped with a tube mounted pump, or anything else? Also, to make sure its a corse, would there be any identifying decals or serial number?

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Old 05-18-09, 10:53 AM
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Two people have already told you it's a fair deal, what are you waiting for? Go get it!
And for next time, keep in mind there is an entire subforum for this type of thread.
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Old 05-18-09, 11:00 AM
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its on an online classified site, like craigslist, i emailed the seller and am waiting for a reply as to when i can come take a look at it.
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22" is almost 56cm.
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Originally Posted by norskagent View Post
22" is almost 56cm.
I'd geuss thats a 58 from looking at it.
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Old 05-18-09, 11:12 AM
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ARGH!!!!!!!! how did i miss that?!!?! i guess i was getting too exited too fast! thanks norsk and shady! one dillema i had was finding a smaller frame like this, i know the size could be changed with a shorter stem,but adding that cost to 325 for this bike is a little high for my likings, and then adding the cost of a tune up, new tires and other thigns that might be needed!

Im still going to see this bike, with the intention of testing it out, not necessarily buying it, thanks again.
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Old 05-18-09, 11:16 AM
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Did you say you have a 28" inseam? As I said before, I have a 29". This looks like it is a bit taller then
your standard 54cm. I ride tall bikes because I have the long trunk thing, but this seems as if it might be a tad
too tall.
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bring a tape measure with you.
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Old 05-18-09, 11:25 AM
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im 5'8" with a 28" inseam, ill bring a tape measure with me for sure. I willr eport back with my findings.
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Originally Posted by aaron_simkovich View Post
im 5'8" with a 28" inseam, ill bring a tape measure with me for sure. I willr eport back with my findings.
As I tried to say before, but left out. I would never look at a bike that tall and I have a 29" inseam.
Like someone above said it looks like 58cm. I can ride one, but I am never happy stopping and starting. I think
you can ride it, but if you are spending $325 I would hold out for a better fit.
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Originally Posted by aaron_simkovich View Post
ARGH!!!!!!!! how did i miss that?!!?! i guess i was getting too exited too fast! thanks norsk and shady! one dillema i had was finding a smaller frame like this, i know the size could be changed with a shorter stem,but adding that cost to 325 for this bike is a little high for my likings, and then adding the cost of a tune up, new tires and other thigns that might be needed!

Im still going to see this bike, with the intention of testing it out, not necessarily buying it, thanks again.
Aaron, just be sure you can do a test ride, at least up and down the gent's driveway. From your discussion earlier, you might be small for this. Bring your own tape measure if you are going to measure it.
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+1 Bike is too big. Many vintage bikes came in 21 inch frame (center to center) and 23 inch frame (along with other sizes smaller and larger). The one at the top of this thread looks like a 23 inch frame. If so, that puts it around 58cm. If you are looking for a 54cm, the closest you are going to get is a 21 inch frame. The headtube on a 21 inch frame bike is quite a bit shorter. Some manufacturers measure differently, center to top. So my recent Miyata 215 purchase, a "23" inch frame bike, is 22 inches center to center.

While I have found quite a few 23 inch frame vintage bikes, I have also found just as many 21 inch frame bikes. I have sold six 21 inch framed road bikes this year, several of them really nice ones (like a Nishiki Prestige).

If you are willing to pay market price for a nice clean ready to ride bike, I would just contact a couple of flippers in your area and let them know what you are looking for. A good one will probably have multiple bikes that meet your needs. Pretty easy to spot flippers, they will have multiple ads with similar copy and the same background, they tend to use terms like ready to ride, recently serviced, and so on.

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I think you need primarily to go by the seat tube length, either from the center of the BB to the center of the seat lug (c-c), or from the center of the BB to the top of the top tube along the seat tube centerline (c-t). There should be about 1.5 cm difference between them.

Measured c-c I'd also guess that frame is around a 58 cm seat tube, based on how the head tube looks. There's a lot of space between the top and down tubes, looking at the head tube. Check out East Hill's bikes, that distance will be much shorter on her bikes.

Though everyone says standover height doesn't matter, here is a case where something really might just be too big.

You really need to ride this.
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i will doublecheck this thing when i go to see it, if the bikes too big anyways, i would probably be better off looking at http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ght=velo+sport
The Top tube is 22" so about 56cm, the Seat tube is 21" , still large, but not as big as the bianchi, and 1/3 the price. But still i will test out the bianchi and even this one.
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Is the 21 inches measured center to top or center to center? Is the "21 inches" actually even or is it rounded up? The convention in a lot of road cycling is to look at the size of a traditional geometry frame in centimeters with one decimal place, because if you size the bike large and are sensitive about top-tube contact, that centimeter or half-centimeter can make a big difference in comfort. This is also why in the past I've harped on precise measurement of inseam.

I'm odd, but IMO top tube is less critical, since there are at least two ways to adjust reach, and more ways if you don't care where your butt is.
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Originally Posted by aaron_simkovich View Post
Heres the sellers blab about this bike:

...you have to stop riding fast bikes somtime.


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Aaron, it does look big for 54cm but you never know. The best thing to is show up and give it test ride!!
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its been scooped up already! made my life easier
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It will appear on the Toronto CL for $600 I bet. Maybe even $650.
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I'd have paid the $$, got some celeste pedals and tires, plus that SSM Era saddle in celeste from Nashbar, and be stylin'
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That's not a 54cm... 56cm minimum, but it looks like a 58cm to me too.

My philosophy for bikes I want to buy for ME to ride (not to flip) is that if it doesn't fit, it doesn't matter how good of a deal it is. Since this sounds like it's just an "OK" deal, I'd pass on it.
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