Which Ti Bikes Are Or Will Become Classics?
Assuming that C&V is an evolving concept and not limited to steel bikes, Which Ti bikes do you think are or will become classics? I have a few ideas, but what to find out what you think. Oh, and photographic illustrations are always appreciated.
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Originally Posted by RFC
(Post 8940699)
Assuming that C&V is an evolving concept and not limited to steel bikes, Which Ti bikes do you think are or will become classics? I have a few ideas, but what to find out what you think. Oh, and photographic illustrations are always appreciated.
Thanks |
In 30 more years.
After the revolution the rebel alliance will have to use all steel bikes with downtube shifters due to being bulletproof and repairable. At that time the Ti bikes will be rare collectors items because all the good metals will be salvaged for their weapons building capabilities. |
Teledyne made a titanium frame in the 70's, I think. I'm sure it's collectable at this time.
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Originally Posted by thenomad
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In 30 more years.
After the revolution the rebel alliance will have to use all steel bikes with downtube shifters due to being bulletproof and repairable. At that time the Ti bikes will be rare collectors items because all the good metals will be salvaged for their weapons building capabilities. I'd have to agree with the Litespeed and Merlin suggestion. I'd also add Lynskey to the list. -Gene- |
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I don't see C&V as limited to steel - if my early 80's bikes with downtube friction shifters are considered C&V bikes than there are plenty of aluminum, carbon, titanium bikes that qualify. Keeping to the topic at hand, though, my dad's mid-70's Teledyne Titan ti bike would definitely qualify.
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Originally Posted by Steve530
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Teledyne made a titanium frame in the 70's, I think. I'm sure it's collectable at this time.
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I think Flema's are kind of cool. These early Ti frames were crudely welded and made with pieces that look like they came from an Erector set, but for me that's a lot of the charm.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
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If it has not inevitably cracked apart.
-Kurt I remembered there was a problem with them, but I did not remember the exact issue. I do remember they were really expensive. |
No one has yet mentioned Speedwell Gear Casing, as ridden to TdF victory by Luis Ocana.
Future classics: Bill Holland, Passoni. |
Kellogg Spectrum
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I hope a 1997 Serotta Ti with Campy Record Titanium will be a classic in about 2 weeks.
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I think ANY 20+ year old Ti bike will be a collectors item. It's not like there's low-end titanium bikes.
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Originally Posted by Exit.
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I think ANY 20+ year old Ti bike will be a collectors item. It's not like there's low-end titanium bikes.
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Bontrager Ti Lite's are a classic. I sold mine several years ago. Frame's alone are going for $900 on eBay.
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
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No one has yet mentioned Speedwell Gear Casing, as ridden to TdF victory by Luis Ocana.
Future classics: Bill Holland, Passoni. Another shout-out for the Teledyne Titan. Yeah, it cracked because of having to create down-sized places on the tubes for shift levers and front derailleurs and such, but they were the first I can remember who understood that oversizing the tubes was the way to make a Ti frame stiff enough for serious racing-type use. It was the real forerunner of every Merlin, Lightspeed, Serrotta Ti, etc., out there, not to mention showing the way for aluminum frames and latter-day steel ones. The Titan may not have succeeded in its own right, but it was very influential throughout the industry. BTW, In that 1973 Tour, Merckx didn't ride, and Ocana was head and shoulders above everyone else. I think he would have won on a kiddie tricycle. I don't think he ever rode that well again. |
Moots!
Where's the Colorado love y'all? |
A non-broken Teledyne, there were a couple of better models too.
That Panasonic Titanium we've all been drooling over. Merlin's and Litespeeds, I'd say especially the Kellog branded ones and the polished ones. Maybe a Seven in time. I doubt they'll be changing hands in yard sales and swap meets, though. |
Originally Posted by bikingshearer
(Post 8941752)
To be completely accurate, Ocana only rode the Speedwell on mountain stages, and I believe (but am not sure) that he swapped back to steel for most of the descents.
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+1 Litespeed and Merlin
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
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BTW, In that 1973 Tour, Merckx didn't ride, and Ocana was head and shoulders above everyone else. I think he would have won on a kiddie tricycle. I don't think he ever rode that well again.
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Originally Posted by kbjack
(Post 8941821)
Moots!
Where's the Colorado love y'all? Truth be told, there are a lot of contemporary USA builders who are making fantastic bikes out of Ti. Every one of them is 'collectible'. I have one friend who is almost the proud owner of this exceptional Ti frame, here is a short blog entry (w/pics) from the builder: http://strongframes.com/blog/?p=1279 He is so going to leave me behind in the TdS this year riding that bike. |
+1 on Bill Holland. I had the pleasure of seeing one of his bikes. I'd buy it now or in 30 years.
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...cough...cough...Airborne....like this one. :o
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...t/IMG_0805.jpg |
Originally Posted by kbjack
(Post 8941821)
Moots!
Where's the Colorado love y'all? http://files.me.com/peterten/xsmjgc |
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