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Old 06-23-09, 03:15 PM
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Your Top 3 C&V "garage sale" road bikes

I saw this in the road bike forum recently, and though I would get the opinion of your top trusted, most favored brands from the 70s-90s.

Not looking for collectors pieces, rare finds, but the top 3 brands that if you saw at a garage sale, classified add, you would jump on.

Preferably, which companies from this era made the best bikes, in your opinion, and came with the best quality components? Would you still ride one of these as-is?
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Old 06-23-09, 04:11 PM
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well, do you mean that we'd have a chance of finding at a garage sale, or just the top 3 brands of bikes we'd like from the 70s? Because there is a big difference.
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Yeah, I think the question is too vague. Just to kick us off, for bikes I'd buy at garage sale prices to ride, with decent original equipment, and where I stood a fair chance that going by brand name alone would get me what I want (in other words, I'm not going to look at every "Schwinn" advertised, even though they made some very nice bikes):

1. Panasonic
2. Trek
3. Fuji
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hmmm... I guess the top 3 brands of bikes that you might stumble across, and not be able to pass up, if that makes any sense.
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Originally Posted by NinjaMilitia View Post
Not looking for collectors pieces, rare finds, but the top 3 brands that if you saw at a garage sale, classified add, you would jump on.
Brand Grease, Brand Rust, and Brand Fixer-Upper.

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Old 06-23-09, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NinjaMilitia View Post
hmmm... I guess the top 3 brands of bikes that you might stumble across, and not be able to pass up, if that makes any sense.
I think the problem is with the term "brands." The kinds of "brands" one is likely to come across at a yard sale are generally larger companies that made lots of chaff as well as producing some wheat. So very few "brands" are consistently good quality enough to list. There are generally some very nice examples and lots of fairly lousy ones. On the other hand, listing smaller artisan producers doesn't seem to fit the question either, since the odds of coming across one at a bargain price are pretty long - that's a different type of discussion altogether.
A better question along the same lines might be, "What three makes and specific models do you keep an eye out for knowing they might pop up and be had for a bargain." Some folks are not inclined to share that kind of info, of course.
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special View Post
I think the problem is with the term "brands." The kinds of "brands" one is likely to come across at a yard sale are generally larger companies that made lots of chaff as well as producing some wheat. So very few "brands" are consistently good quality enough to list. There are generally some very nice examples and lots of fairly lousy ones.
+1 Most C and V noobs (myself included a few years back) make the mistake of focusing too much on brand names, instead of doing the homework of learning how to identify a quality bike from its frame material and build, components, etc.

Case in point, most people consider Ross bikes to be low end junk. Although I knew that there were exceptions (and just flipped one), I was surprised last night when I was flipping through a 1982 Bicycling Buyer's Guide and saw that the Ross Signature series retailed as high as $2800 (Super Record model)!
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1. Trek
2. Any of the good Japanese brands.
3. Anything with cromoly frame, alloy crankset and alloy rims.

+1 to Roccobike's comment below: Any LBS bike that has decent resale potential is all I am looking for. Or at the right price, even just a donor bike. I bought one POS once at a garage sale for the seat and pedals. Pretty much everything else was junk. Even a gulp Xmart bike at the right (cheap) price can be a source of tires, seat, pedals, and so on.

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I read all the posts on this thread, gave it careful thought and decided there is only one answer I can give for yardsale bikes:
If the bike was sold by an LBS and it's priced right, it's what I'm looking for and I buy it, PERIOD.
Why you're limiting yourself in a market that's already limited is beyond me. It's hard enough to find the type of bike (road, hybrid, MTB) that you're looking or in your size. At the right price, I buy them all, flip the one's I don't want and collect the one's I want that fit me. You can be choosey when you own a few and a nicer one comes along in your size.
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Originally Posted by NinjaMilitia View Post
I saw this in the road bike forum recently, and though I would get the opinion of your top trusted, most favored brands from the 70s-90s.

Not looking for collectors pieces, rare finds, but the top 3 brands that if you saw at a garage sale, classified add, you would jump on.
1. Hetchins
2. Masi
3. Colnago

as if that would happen
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I'd suggest you keep what you saw in the road forum, in the road forum

Buying bikes based on brand is for noobs.
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I'd say any Trek or Fuji and Schwinn's better models. They're not rare and typically a fast flip if the price is right. I'm with roccobike, tho, and would buy any bike store bike if the price is right.
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Originally Posted by bibliobob View Post
Although I knew that there were exceptions (and just flipped one), I was surprised last night when I was flipping through a 1982 Bicycling Buyer's Guide and saw that the Ross Signature series retailed as high as $2800 (Super Record model)!
The original "Ross Signature" bikes were basically semi-custom frames built by master builders (Tom Kellogg, Jim Redcay, Jeff Duser). It was the down-line models that dragged down the best intentions, not the other way 'round.
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Miyata, Fuji, Trek.
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These are my three favorite brands from that period:

1. Peugeot
2. Univega
3. Miyata

Honorable mentions:

1. Trek
2. Fuji
3. Panasonic

If any one of these was for sale at a yard sale, I'd buy it. No questions asked.
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Bikes I have bought at garage sales:

1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo
($20 at a yard sale)

1980 Peugeot PKN-10

1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10
(red, white, and blue, made in USA, and purchased from a firefighter)
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As I've said before, I'm not a car guy... but isn't there a kind of hierarchy of car brands (or marques)? So among the GM brands, Chevy was the cheapest and Cadillac was the most expensive, and so on, right? And this is true even when there is no affiliation between the companies, where a Mercedes Benz is generally recognized as a more expensive (and better?) car than a Volkswagen, and so on. With this in mind, OP's question is not totally off the wall.

And to some extent the same thing is true among bicycles anyway, at least at the extremes. So we have complete confidence a Colnago is a better bike than a Free Spirit. We are less certain, though still confident, that a Dawes is better than a Free Spirit (but we still keep an eye cocked for the elusive Free Spirit with a 531 frame). Along with Free Spirit we can rule out Huffy, Kent, Murray, Columbia, and a host of others.

The problem is that most of the "brand name" bicycle companies made a wide range of bikes. You can't compare Raleigh, Peugeot, Miyata, Nishiki, or even Schwinn without knowing the model.
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As I've said before, I'm not a car guy... but isn't there a kind of hierarchy of car brands (or marques)? So among the GM brands, Chevy was the cheapest and Cadillac was the most expensive, and so on, right? And this is true even when there is no affiliation between the companies, where a Mercedes Benz is generally recognized as a more expensive (and better?) car than a Volkswagen, and so on. With this in mind, OP's question is not totally off the wall.

The problem is that most of the "brand name" bicycle companies made a wide range of bikes. You can't compare Raleigh, Peugeot, Miyata, Nishiki, or even Schwinn without knowing the model.
The OP asked which brand we'd jump on at a yard sale or classified ad and my answer, any LBS bike at the right price, still stands.
I like your question better, which brands do I search for on CL or ebay knowing I'd pay full price and taking into account the models. For me, that's a different answer. BTW, it would be Nishiki ( higher models only) and Bianchi (any model as long as it fits, a bonus for Celeste).
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Those of you who have participated, thanks for the comments.

Please remember that the very nature of this forum is to share knowledge (or opinions) with others around a common topic. In this case, Old bikes. With the purpose of this forum's existence in mind, remember that each of you have asked questions of the community, and have come here to look for information or share your knowledge. Remember that this is always a humbling experience. I know very little about vintage bikes, other than that I appreciate the vintage aesthetic more (in most cases) than the modern, and that I like the feel of steel more than aluminum, titanium or carbon (well, actually i have never ridden a carbon frame). I own a Bridgestone RB 400, and love it.

With this said, thanks again for those of you interested in advancing the body of knowledge for vintage bicycles. And of course variables such as condition, maintenance and original price bracket must be controlled for. But this is not a scientific measurement--just interested in what sorts of manufacturers and specific models--that may have been mass produced--you still see value in owning. That's all.
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Downtube shifters
Sew up tires
pretty much anything @$20
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The last bike I bought at a garage sale was a 1983 Schwinn Le Tour Luxe for $25.
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Any adult bike that a decent LBS would have sold new and that is now priced around $20.
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I think the question was simple enough.

1-Centurion Ironman or Lemans/Lemans RS. Bring $200 and start at $50, go up per model/condition.

2-Miyata/Nishiki/Fuji/Panasonic. From uprights to road bikes, $25-$100.

3-Old Schwinn cruiser bikes. $20 to $50, because rust comes off in most cases.

Also, just follow roccobike around on any given Saturday. He's the master.
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1. Paramount. Chrome would be nice.

2. Cinelli. Bicycle Man of Orange (great LBS, R.I.P.) had these. Wanted one so bad.

3. Univega. Still one of the best bike per dollar ever. Have a Super Strada that was bought new in '85. I want another Viva Sport, 1979 vintage.

Specialized Stump Jumper, a rigid one.
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I agree that it's features not brands or models that would catch my eye: alloy components (particularly rims), downtube shifters, leather saddles, Stronglight or TA cranksets, Campagnolo bling. Then again, I've never bought a bike at a yard sale, but those are the details I look for when scanning Craig's List pics.

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