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charles vail 06-23-04 12:37 AM

nuevo record stuff
 
Can anyone tell me if a campagnolo nuevo record can be used with a 8 cog freewheel. My retro project frame has 130 mm spacing but I would like to use the nuevo record deuraillur if possible. If not, can I simply add a spacer in the back and use a freewheel with fewer cogs? I guess I am asking what my options are? -charles

lotek 06-23-04 07:11 AM

Yes you can use the Nuovo Record rear with an eight speed freewheel.
Just be sure your levers have enough throw for it.
I've seen a few 8 speed campy indexed down tube shifters on e-bay
lately if you need em.
You could always look for a suntour winner or regina 7 speed freewheel,
they're pretty easy to exchange.

Marty

Chief 06-23-04 07:15 AM

I've got a 7 speed freewheel on a '74 Raleigh Pro, and the Campy NR derailuer works fine. My guess is there should be enough "travel" adjustment for it to swing across 8 cogs. The limiting factor will be the size of the large cog (23 or 24 teeth?) before the der cage is simply not long enough to move the chain.

mowog 06-23-04 09:13 AM

After not riding for a while I found I needed lower gearing than my original casette so I went with 26 teeth and it fits my Neuvo Record fine. I could probably even go a few more teeth. This is on a 71 Gitane tour de france.

Bob Skillman Ellicott City MD

charles vail 06-23-04 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by lotek
Yes you can use the Nuovo Record rear with an eight speed freewheel.
Just be sure your levers have enough throw for it.
I've seen a few 8 speed campy indexed down tube shifters on e-bay
lately if you need em.
You could always look for a suntour winner or regina 7 speed freewheel,
they're pretty easy to exchange.

Marty

Thanks for the tip I just saved a whole bunch of $$$ and I get to use my old 80's parts on a 90's configured frame. The frame is being chromed and painted "Tangerine" at Elliot Bay cycles in Seattle Wa.
Now I have to locate some Modolo Speedy brake pads if possible and some good hubs.

lotek 06-23-04 12:47 PM

Modolo scinterized brake pads are available on e-bay.
If you don't see any there check http://www.renaissance-cycles.com/
Baron usually has a good stock of Modolo parts.
what kind of frame are you building?

Marty

charles vail 06-23-04 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by lotek
Modolo scinterized brake pads are available on e-bay.
If you don't see any there check http://www.renaissance-cycles.com/
Baron usually has a good stock of Modolo parts.
what kind of frame are you building?

Marty

Thank you for the info on parts, I'll check them out.
I purchased a frame off E-Bay that was made in Belgium at the old Flandria bicycle factory I am told.
It is a Columbus SL with cast lugs & BB with nicely done top tube interior brake cable guide. Campagnolo drop outs on the rear. I purchased a Davidson fork with flat crown since the one sent with it was Taiwan junk and the wrong size. The frame was unpainted and I had Davidson check it out and they commented the brazing was nicely done and the frame appeared to be well made and straight. It has about a 39+ inch wheelbase and fairly steep angles with about a 55 cm seat tube (my size). There are campagnolo braze ons for shifters on the down tube plus braze ons for one bottle and a chain hanger. I am re-using parts off my old Bianchi Campione D'Italia my friend purchased from me 20 years ago. Those parts are still very tight amazingly. You won't find many Japanese parts lasting this long. He wore out two sets of wheels and three freewheels on that bike after I rode it alot. The old 57 cm Bianchi frame will be re-painted eventually and probably sold or I may restore it and buy other parts later for my current project.
I am going to make the new bike look simular to the orange Masi in the 70's movie "Breaking Away" except that I will use a Brooks saddle and will have personalized graphics. I've been getting in shape again on my Recumbent and plan to ride this "classic" on some retro rides in nice weather next spring.
Just re-claiming a little bit of my youth! :D

John E 06-23-04 03:17 PM

My Bianchi sounds very similar to yours, Charles. Yes, the Campag. derailleurs and pedals are still going great. Don't be too hard on Japanese parts, however -- I still use the original SunTour downtube shift levers from my 1970 Nishiki Competition, and a friend recently put the matching SunTour VGT-Luxe rear derailleur on his daughter's bike, after she tacoed her Shimano. It apparently works fine with the Shimano 7-speed indexed shifter and freehub.

As for the Masi project, there is nothing wrong with either a Masi frame or a Brooks Pro saddle!

Incidentally, I regeared my Bianchi 50-42 / 13-15-17-19-21-23-26, which the Campag. NR derailleurs handle with aplomb.

charles vail 06-23-04 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by John E
My Bianchi sounds very similar to yours, Charles. Yes, the Campag. derailleurs and pedals are still going great. Don't be too hard on Japanese parts, however -- I still use the original SunTour downtube shift levers from my 1970 Nishiki Competition, and a friend recently put the matching SunTour VGT-Luxe rear derailleur on his daughter's bike, after she tacoed her Shimano. It apparently works fine with the Shimano 7-speed indexed shifter and freehub.

As for the Masi project, there is nothing wrong with either a Masi frame or a Brooks Pro saddle!

Incidentally, I regeared my Bianchi 50-42 / 13-15-17-19-21-23-26, which the Campag. NR derailleurs handle with aplomb.

I take it the spacing of 130mm is either for 7 or 8 cog freewheels? The old Bianchi is I think 125mm. I had my new frame cold set from 127 to 130mm. It was, of course, made as a 130mm. I just want a set up that works without hangups. I was happy enough with 5 or 6 cogs on a freewheel back in the old days.
I think I will try to purchase a fairly close ratio "corncob" freewheel as the bike will be used on nice days on easier rides after the weight comes off. Got to stop eating those cookies!! It's interesting that I purchased a Nishiki in 1979 but can't remember what model. All I remember is that it was metallic blue and more of a touring geometry bike. I later had it painted orange by Bill Davidson. I then traded it for my Bianchi in about 1981. Mine was white with Red graphics. I wonder if I can get away with using the old "bumpy" texture campy friction shifters and the 7 or 8 cog freewheel.-charles


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