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Old 07-08-09, 07:00 PM
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1962 Raleigh Gran Sport--Old Campagnolo!

I recently picked up a deteriorating Raleigh from CL two weeks ago. Truth be told, it was in a sorry state. But for $20, I had to take it. Turns out, it has Campagnolo Gran Sport shifters and derailleurs, plus a really old and cracked-up Brooks Swallow.

I cleaned it up, and gave it a new chain, Panaracer tires, and bar tape.

So does anybody have more info about this bike? Especially the Campy group?

I did find another guy who restored one of these on flickr--here's a catalog scan.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jwright...7594494565758/

Photo of my bike:



More here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/loganwa...7621150324182/

Since it is a tad larger than my size, I'm thinking of selling it. Any idea of its market value too?
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Originally Posted by wanlogan View Post
I recently picked up a deteriorating Raleigh from CL two weeks ago. Truth be told, it was in a sorry state. But for $20, I had to take it. Turns out, it has Campagnolo Gran Sport shifters and derailleurs, plus a really old and cracked-up Brooks Swallow.

I cleaned it up, and gave it a new chain, Panaracer tires, and bar tape.

So does anybody have more info about this bike? Especially the Campy group?

I did find another guy who restored one of these on flickr--here's a catalog scan.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jwright...7594494565758/

Photo of my bike:



More here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/loganwa...7621150324182/

Since it is a tad larger than my size, I'm thinking of selling it. Any idea of its market value too?
Before Record came out, that Gran Sport set was teh racing gruppo. It might have been current for your bike, or it may have been recent high-end stuff, or it might just have been price-reduced if Record was already available. I got it on a late -60s middle-range Falcon, my reward for bringing up my French grades in high school. Bribery ain't new! It didn't shift as well as the cheaper Simplex, but it was a lot better than the Huret Alvit or the Campy Velox or Valentino. SunTour was not yet on the scene.
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Old 07-08-09, 07:48 PM
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Your bike looks to be according to catalog spec w/ Campy Gran Sport mechs. What other info are you looking for?

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Old 07-08-09, 07:53 PM
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That thing is freakin' gorgeous! Thanks for sharing. I have or had the same Gran Sport derailleurs and shifters on each of the three ca. 1960 Capos I have owned, and those were top-of-the-line back then, just before the Record series came out. Make sure you keep that front derailleur well-lubricated -- the first owner of Capo #1 wore mine out.

I like your half-step gearing -- 49-46? I am setting up Capo #2 with 49-46/14-16-18-21-24-26, using an ultra-6 freewheel in place of the original 14-16-18-20-22 Caimi, which was a little stiff for my tastes.
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Thanks for the replies. Frankly, I was just looking for whatever info I may have missed.

Good info to know about the Component group, though. Thanks!

So what kind of price should I be looking for if I do Craigslist or ebay? (Should I move that question to appraisals?)
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How about pictures of a 1966 Gran Sport?

Old Ten Speed Gallery:

http://oldtenspeedgallery.com/tag/1966/
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Old 07-08-09, 09:05 PM
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That...is one seriously beautiful old Raleigh !!

Got to love the early GS!
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Originally Posted by wanlogan View Post
So what kind of price should I be looking for if I do Craigslist or ebay? (Should I move that question to appraisals?)
That would be the polite thing to do.

Your bike makes me hot. But I'm broke.
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Old 07-08-09, 10:55 PM
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They sure did make pumps small back then.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/loganwa...7621150324182/
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The Retro Raleigh site has good information on the Gran Sport

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroral...ran-sport.html

Yours looks pretty original except for the wheels and missing bluemel fenders. Hubs would have been hi-flange, steel dunlop rims, and definitely no plastic spoke protector. Otherwise looks nice and pretty complete. I had one a few years back, purchased from the orginal owner, and regretfully sold it.. too small. Here's a few pics.




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As far as value goes...I think about $100 shipped sounds good to me.
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Very cool bikes! I like those old Raleighs.

But wanlogan, I really hope you will keep the bike together, rather than part it out. A lot of people here and probably on Classic Rendezvous would like it as is, in hopes of completing a restoration. There's a sense of stewardship, sometimes. Other times we just need a few bucks.
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Interesting to note that the OP's bike appears to have Campy Record shift levers rather than GS,,,
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Dont sell! Too large? Looking at the pic you could lower the seat. You´ve done a good job if it was in a sorry state, so keep, ride & enjoy!
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Thanks, bogester, for the info. I didn't really know whether or not to keep the spoke protector--it looked original, stamped "Huret around the metal inside.
Good eye with the wheels too. The rear hub is high-flange, and I should have suspected that the front wasn't original. It has an Araya rim, and some illegible stamped hub make.

I do indeed have the plastic mudguards, with the rear one marked with the Raleigh insignia/logo. But it does have a fairly large chunk taken out of it. Also, it seems to be missing a screw that mounted it to the frame, and was instead held together with cheap wire.

Did your Gran Sport come with a kickstand, which you later took off?

As for the concerns that I'm going to part it out-definitely not!

If the complete (read: In one piece) bike doesn't have too much of a market value, I might was well just keep it around for fun/eye candy.
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It's not too big for you if you can ride it with the seat that high!
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Originally Posted by wanlogan View Post
Thanks, bogester, for the info. I didn't really know whether or not to keep the spoke protector--it looked original, stamped "Huret around the metal inside.
Good eye with the wheels too. The rear hub is high-flange, and I should have suspected that the front wasn't original. It has an Araya rim, and some illegible stamped hub make.

I do indeed have the plastic mudguards, with the rear one marked with the Raleigh insignia/logo. But it does have a fairly large chunk taken out of it. Also, it seems to be missing a screw that mounted it to the frame, and was instead held together with cheap wire.

Did your Gran Sport come with a kickstand, which you later took off?

As for the concerns that I'm going to part it out-definitely not!

If the complete (read: In one piece) bike doesn't have too much of a market value, I might was well just keep it around for fun/eye candy.
I think mine did come with a kick stand. It wasn't a light bike by any stretch. Somebody mentioned 531 tubing but I don't think that came on the Gran Sports until late 60's or 70's. The early ones were high tensil steel.

I don't think they are worth a whole lot. I'd guess you'd only get a couple hundred bucks on ebay..never know though. I think I'd put some good lightweight wheels on it and ride it.
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Raleigh sometimes marked the non-reynolds alloy on the seat tube - usually 2040. This numbers is the standard designation for carbon steel. "Hi-ten" is strictly a marketing term, and says basically nothing about what the metal really is.
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