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Old 02-19-15, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kactus
From the seat stays I'm guessing that's a Casati?
+1 nice catch. The SS cap appears to be pantographed as a Casati. Some closeups of the lugs would help to identify if there are pantographs. Repaint? If it is a Casati, then the repainted frame would be worth less. Calculating the cost of the group, is it worth over a grand all together? I think not.
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I wonder what is "registered" about the 75 Austro-Daimlers...
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Originally Posted by kdresch
$1,200 RARE 1974 antique racing bicycle Geoffrey Butler custom - $1200 (downtown greenville)

Read the story below. Wow, $1,500 for a frame in 1974! Was this guy crazy or what? That's $7,103 in todays dollars. Tall tale? I think maybe so. What's this worth guys?

$1,200 RARE 1974 antique racing bicycle Geoffrey Butler custom












In 1974 it was originally purchased by a bicycle shop owner in Manhattan. He had seen it at a bike show in New England. The original owner bought the frame for $1,500 and then bought a full set of Campagnolo Super Record and Shimano Dura-Ace groupos.

Not only was he spending a crazy sum of money on the frame, but he was putting asian parts on it!!!!! In 1974 Japanese parts were still considered non-race grade components... cheap to say the least. But it was in those early years that Shimano was making their move into the racing scene.

The reason the owner bought both Campy and Dura-ace was to compare the weights of each component... and compare he did! He obsessed over each part and selected each one to make the lightest mix possible while adding in many titanium parts as well (which was EXTREMELY exotic for that time period!!!)

He did several other things to lighten up the frame like having the brake levers drilled out.

And lastly, he ordered wheel and pedal sets from a little company in Tennessee that is now gone.... but at the time was king of light weight. (I think the company spelled its name "Weighless"? I had the parts identified by a 42 year old bike shop in my area... the old mechanics there were drooling over them).

What he ended up with was a steel framed race bike that weighs 19.5 pounds.... INSANELY light weight! ........Even by todays standards (41 years later) this bike is CRAZY lightweight!!!!!

He remembers that it was 1974 because as soon as the bike was built up he rode it home by the New York channel. And on that day, the replicas of the Nina, Pinta, and the Santa Maria were sailing up the harbor in preparation for the 1976 bicentennial. As he was riding along he was watching the three ships sail up the harbor and he hit a street sign and broke his collar bone and WALKED his bike back to his flat instead of taking it to the hospital because he knew it wouldn't be safe at the hospital.

Cool bike... cool parts... cool story...

58cm frame
Very cool bike and pretty light (but not CRAZY!!!!!). The $1500 frame story is ridiculous; just look at brochures from 1974 from top-end builders. Fair offering price for today, though.
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Originally Posted by arkyarky9
Ritchey Swiss Cross for sale in Atlanta. 58 cm Ritchey Swiss Cross
Fun bike!

Wish it was a frameset only sale.
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Originally Posted by gomango
Fun bike!

Wish it was a frameset only sale.
Could always part it out and sell the undesired components. 8 speed Campagnolo prices are ridiculous on ebay
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Originally Posted by arkyarky9
Could always part it out and sell the undesired components. 8 speed Campagnolo prices are ridiculous on ebay
Good point.

Yes, the prices are silly at times for early Ergo and I have a bunch sitting here with no builds in sight.

I feel like the guy with 13 cats sometimes...........
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[h=2]Trek 660 - $200 (Red Wing, MN)[/h]Trek 660



This is a rare green Trek 660 from 1985. It is 22 1/2" inches, center to top. It is in overall good to excellent condition for its age. Suntour crank and Modolo brakes. $200 dollars is an exceptions value for this 12 speed!Even though it's 20 below you know you'll be riding in a couple of months! 1st $200 dollars takes.
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Originally Posted by Clang
Trek 660 - $200 (Red Wing, MN)

Trek 660



This is a rare green Trek 660 from 1985. It is 22 1/2" inches, center to top. It is in overall good to excellent condition for its age. Suntour crank and Modolo brakes. $200 dollars is an exceptions value for this 12 speed!Even though it's 20 below you know you'll be riding in a couple of months! 1st $200 dollars takes.
I love old Superbe stuff! my size too. anyone planning a trip from MN to Chicago?
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Nice Gitane Tour de France.

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Originally Posted by mountaindave
+1 nice catch. The SS cap appears to be pantographed as a Casati. Some closeups of the lugs would help to identify if there are pantographs. Repaint? If it is a Casati, then the repainted frame would be worth less. Calculating the cost of the group, is it worth over a grand all together? I think not.
You could easily part that bike out and make 500+. You must not be aware of the cost of a c record crank in the century finish..... Big bucks.... That and the frame make the deal.... Everything else is gravy!!!
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Colnago Master Art Decor

I just bought this bike thru Ebay. I don't know much about the bike but it just looked gorgeous. Is it a good bike for the price of $1500 shipped?

The wheels look like they have little value.

Any comments will be appreciated.





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Originally Posted by gomango
Good point.

Yes, the prices are silly at times for early Ergo and I have a bunch sitting here with no builds in sight.

I feel like the guy with 13 cats sometimes...........
I've seen Avanti Ergos with torn hoods go for over $100. You could be rich, I tell ya! Rich!
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Anybody know about these bikes?
For $25??

1974 Belgian Novy
Large steel frame with Reynolds 531 forks.
Thin racing wheels with sew up tires. (tires need to be replaced)
Narrow rear gear cluster for racing.
https://southjersey.craigslist.org/bik/4899044641.html
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Old 02-20-15, 11:48 AM
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For $25 I'd already be on my way to pick it up.

Originally Posted by NJgreyhead
Anybody know about these bikes?
For $25??

1974 Belgian Novy
Large steel frame with Reynolds 531 forks.
Thin racing wheels with sew up tires. (tires need to be replaced)
Narrow rear gear cluster for racing.
https://southjersey.craigslist.org/bik/4899044641.html
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I know nothing, other than you can't go wrong for $25.
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I know nothing, other than you can't go wrong for $25.
If that came up in my size in my area, I'd immediately go and get it for anything up to $100. But maybe that's just me.
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Originally Posted by NJgreyhead
Anybody know about these bikes?
For $25??

1974 Belgian Novy
Large steel frame with Reynolds 531 forks.
Thin racing wheels with sew up tires. (tires need to be replaced)
Narrow rear gear cluster for racing.
https://southjersey.craigslist.org/bik/4899044641.html
The frame pump is worth the $25! It looks to be early 60's with a 531 frame. Buy it ASAP and we can figure out more about it later.
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58cm Motobecane Grand Touring Road Bike $175 (NW OKC)



Looks like a 1974 model.
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Originally Posted by NJgreyhead
Anybody know about these bikes?
For $25??

1974 Belgian Novy
Large steel frame with Reynolds 531 forks.
Thin racing wheels with sew up tires. (tires need to be replaced)
Narrow rear gear cluster for racing.
https://southjersey.craigslist.org/bik/4899044641.html
It would have to be rust held together by paint to be worth less than $25. Run, don't walk...
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Originally Posted by 72Paramount
You could easily part that bike out and make 500+. You must not be aware of the cost of a c record crank in the century finish..... Big bucks.... That and the frame make the deal.... Everything else is gravy!!!
You are correct, Campy stuff is outside my radar. A complete 8s C Record group with Ergos, wheels, etc. is going to run $600+? All I know is I want a certain Casati (not this one) equipped with early Ergos in silver. It may sound crazy, but I only recently discovered Ergos. Now STIs look like they have a cancerous growth on the top of an otherwise normal aero brake lever. That and I couldn't bring myself to use Shimano on an Italian frame... just doesn't seem right.
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Interesting bike...not a bad price...particularly, I would guess, for that market...
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Originally Posted by daf1009
Interesting bike...not a bad price...particularly, I would guess, for that market...
I am not sure I agree. It looks like lots of rust spots on that that chrome(?) or is silver? Records hubs, shifter, seatpin and Victory crank that looks like self extractors are rounded out. The brooks looks like a stale dry chocolate bar with a nibble taken out of it.

I am not familiar with the brand but this looks more like a $200-250 project to me. It most certainly needs an overhaul and good cleaning and waxing. The chain and FW are likely to be worn out too.

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