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Old 01-04-18, 09:22 AM
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No. I'm pretty sure it's a Cinelli Advantage. Significantly lower in the hierarchy. That's the original color.


Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
This looks like a Cinelli Supercorsa with a pretty bad repaint. $500 shipped in San Diego.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/59CM-CINELL...MAAOSwGPxaNF5H
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Originally Posted by Piff
I dunno what these are worth, but I thought given its condition it would be worth a post.

Also, never heard of this custom builder before. Albert Eisentraut?
Guy is asking a ton for the bike, but it has full campy with some super record sprinkled in. Seems like he's the original owner, he even gives the frame specs.
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/...434855416.html $1600

Eisentraut is a build that's piqued my interest recently. Maybe somebody can pitch in on valuation. I was looking at this CL ad a week or two ago but the price seems high especially for a repaint.
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Originally Posted by camelopardalis
No. I'm pretty sure it's a Cinelli Advantage. Significantly lower in the hierarchy. That's the original color.
Ah I guess so, says so right there on the top tube. Other than the paint and shortage of chrome, I canít tell the difference from a Supercorsa.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
Ah I guess so, says so right there on the top tube. Other than the paint and shortage of chrome, I canít tell the difference from a Supercorsa.
Wow! I just compared the pictures with my Supercorsa and they do look the same.
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Originally Posted by camelopardalis
Eisentraut is a build that's piqued my interest recently. Maybe somebody can pitch in on valuation. I was looking at this CL ad a week or two ago but the price seems high especially for a repaint.
It's not a bargain price but it's not out of line either. The Eisentraut "A" frames, of which this is one, are beautifully made and there's not a lot of them out there, (compared to say Cinelli, DeRosa, Masi, Colnago)

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Originally Posted by StarBiker
Check Ebay completed listings. Not sure, but most likely this seller among a few others are dreamers.
Of course it is located in Taxassachusetts.
Yep, $2500 is dreaming big-time. I sold this Campy-equipped Y77 last year for $750.
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And that's what they sold for on Ebay. I just scratch my head when I see this stuff.
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Good deal on a lotus in SD, looks really clean too. $160
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/...447274461.html


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Another listing in SD, seems too good to be true though, but never know. Austro Daimler Vent Noir w/ first gen dura ace for $675

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/...447293440.html



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$500 Schwinn Tempo. Beautiful bike that appears to be in showroom condition, just not worth anywhere near $500, IMO.

The reason I posted it is because of the way it's described to be in "fair condition". Wow, if that's "fair condition" I'd love to see what "good condition" looks like:

https://bakersfield.craigslist.org/b...442966851.html



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3 speed Robin hood 60$ SoCal, Costa Mesa

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/...443611545.html

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If this freebie was on my side of the Bay, I'd be on it:
Bicycle (hayward / castro valley)

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Originally Posted by obrentharris
It's not a bargain price but it's not out of line either. The Eisentraut "A" frames, of which this is one, are beautifully made and there's not a lot of them out there, (compared to say Cinelli, DeRosa, Masi, Colnago)

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Worth the price with the repainted frame?
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Another Lotus, this one the Odyssey (tourer) from around 1986, size 56, for $250.
This one's little sister, 49cm, is also listed for the same price.
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/...433308802.html
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Different

Burley - $1000 (Cary)



"I had this bike for 1 yr and havnt rode it since, great bike new tubes and tires.

My number is 984, two 69, three nine one eight"

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Originally Posted by camelopardalis
Worth the price with the repainted frame?
If I had the money in my bike fund and the bike were a few centimeters taller I would buy it at that price.

But I might be the wrong person to ask for 2 reasons:
1. I have a great respect for Albert Eisentraut and his legacy as a great framebuilder and mentor to other great framebuilders who worked at one time for him.
2. I paint bike frames and don't place a lot of value on original paint unless it is something highly unusual or characteristic of the builder. Most of Eisentraut's frames of that era were single-color metallics which are relatively straightforward to duplicate. So if the current paint job doesn't please me I can change it.

Do please post some detailed photos if you end up buying it!
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Vitus 979 - 59 cm - Vintage French Road Bike - Campagnolo and Dura Ace - $250 (Evanston)




This Vitus 979 is a very light vintage aluminum road bike with vintage Campagnolo and Dura Ace components. The frame is 59 cm, so it will fit riders from 5'11'' to 6'2''. It just needs a tune up.

More info on the Vitus here: Vitus 979


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Originally Posted by Steve Whitlatch
Vitus 979 - 59 cm - Vintage French Road Bike - Campagnolo and Dura Ace - $250 (Evanston)



Yipes!
If that were near me I'd jump on it just for the components. In fact if the hubs are something even halfway decent and someone in the Chicago area wants to pick this up. I'll reimburse you the full cost and pay for shipping on the components and you can keep the frame and fork.
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Fisher Celerity - $40 in Ventura, CA
https://ventura.craigslist.org/bik/d...447897468.html
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Originally Posted by katsup
Fisher Celerity - $40 in Ventura, CA
https://ventura.craigslist.org/bik/d...447897468.html
Sweet!
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Neglected Italvega Nuovo Sport 1972 58cm Campagnolo SR Suntour - $30 (marina / cow hollow)

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KHS bike frame and components - $50 (dublin / pleasanton / livermore)

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...448254388.html
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Originally Posted by 2cam16
Sweet!
Agree, just don't feel like taking the 1.5hr round trip for a bike that is not my size.
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Originally Posted by camelopardalis
Eisentraut is a build that's piqued my interest recently. Maybe somebody can pitch in on valuation. I was looking at this CL ad a week or two ago but the price seems high especially for a repaint.
All Eisentraut A Models were custom built. In his day he was quite popular among competitors and serious cyclists. It was my grail bike when I lived in the bay area. I now have Limited and a custom sports tourer frame that was built by one of his students, Will Sampson. The limited is running its original Galli group and the is running a Campagnolo Rally group.

Eisentraut was revered for his design and engineering. He often mixed tubing sets to get the best performance. He didn't go in much for frills, like chrome, lots of braze ons and fancy paint work. The subject bike has one of his typical ugly colors. My Limited is baby poop brown. I can't tell if the decals are correct, but they look close.

Personally, I think the asking price is ~50% high since the components are kind of miss-matched and may not be period correct, but these are fantastic bikes and often command high prices.

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Originally Posted by katsup
Fisher Celerity - $40 in Ventura, CA
https://ventura.craigslist.org/bik/d...447897468.html
I had one of those. It weighed A TON.

Do. Not. Miss.
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Originally Posted by Senior Ryder 00
All Eisentraut A Models were custom built. In his day he was quite popular among competitors and serious cyclists. It was my grail bike when I lived in the bay area. I now have Limited and a custom sports tourer frame that was built by one of his students, Will Sampson. The limited is running its original Galli group and the is running a Campagnolo Rally group.

Eisentraut was revered for his design and engineering. He often mixed tubing sets to get the best performance. He didn't go in much for frills, like chrome, lots of braze ons and fancy paint work. The subject bike has one of his typical ugly colors. My Limited is baby poop brown. I can't tell if the decals are correct, but they look close.

Personally, I think the asking price is ~50% high since the components are kind of miss-matched and may not be period correct, but these are fantastic bikes and often command high prices.

Cheers,

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I - think - that there were production Eisentrauts...though the model name escapes me. Rainbow trout? Not all are equally as desirable. Personally I see him as one of many talented and influential builders, and generally a bit inflated in the market compared to some others. Many of the west coast guys get a, relative, market premium.

YMMV
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