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Old 03-10-19, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by royleroy
I bought this. You're right, its a tall one at 61cm. A size too tall for me, but I've enjoyed breaking it down this weekend. Very low miles and no surprises.
I've been getting into the esoterica of bike fitting, how is it too big? Standover hight, reach? Or something else?
Beautiful bike though!
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Originally Posted by royleroy
I bought this. You're right, its a tall one at 61cm. A size too tall for me, but I've enjoyed breaking it down this weekend. Very low miles and no surprises.
That can be dealt with, with a short stem. My 'too big' Paramount is a favorite ride. Being a Trekhead myself, I encourage you to try and make it work.
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Much better dealing with a frame that's too big than one that's too small. Plus, on big frames, the top tube is often the same as smaller-sized models, so stand-over height is really all that you're sacrificing.
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One of the older Moser Sprints, $150 near Birmingham - all original, down to the bar tape. Not their best, Ofmega drivetrain, but it's a Moser. (I have the exact same bike, it's not bad)

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Originally Posted by Chr0m0ly


I've been getting into the esoterica of bike fitting, how is it too big? Standover hight, reach? Or something else?
Beautiful bike though!
My issue is always reach. At 59cm, the TT is just too long. A man has got to know his limitations.
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Originally Posted by royleroy
My issue is always reach. At 59cm, the TT is just too long. A man has got to know his limitations.
59cm would be too long for me too, but I've found that one size "too big" frames are most comfortable for me, with a shorter reach stem. This bike had a 12cm reach, I tried an 8cm and that was better, but it's final iteration was a 6.5cm, and you can get shorter reached stems.
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Originally Posted by royleroy
My issue is always reach. At 59cm, the TT is just too long. A man has got to know his limitations.
Yup. I've bought and sold a couple of 80s Treks that should have fit according to seat tube, but the TT was just too long.
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They're a little long but they're also fitted with long stems. Doesn't help.
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As purchased
Looks like it came from "East side Milwaukee" guy. Dude flips some nice Treks, and a few other oddities now and then (he had a stainless steel Bridgestone the other day, IIRC).

59cm would be too long for me too, but I've found that one size "too big" frames are most comfortable for me, with a shorter reach stem. This bike had a 12cm reach, I tried an 8cm and that was better, but it's final iteration was a 6.5cm, and you can get shorter reached stems.
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Yup. I've bought and sold a couple of 80s Treks that should have fit according to seat tube, but the TT was just too long.
That's because non-custom bikes are sized based on overall height, with no regard to proportion. Imagine if you could select frame sizes like you do when buying slacks. If you need a larger waist, you're not locked into a longer inseam, and vice-versa. Imagine frame sized being available based on seat tube and top tube length independently (within a reasonable range of course). Of course, no one other than custom builders does that, and certainly no one did BITD. So if you're what a local fitter here calls a "shortback", that is, your height is mostly in your legs rather than your torso, there's no "right" fit with the typical frame proportions and stock components. So it usually comes down to choosing between a "tall enough but too long" frame with a short-reach stem (and possibly a minimal- or zero-offset seatpost, or a "right reach but not tall enough" frame with a tall seatpost/stem. (That, or $$$$ for a custom.)
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Originally Posted by madpogue
Looks like it came from "East side Milwaukee" guy. Dude flips some nice Treks, and a few other oddities now and then (he had a stainless steel Bridgestone the other day, IIRC).

That's because non-custom bikes are sized based on overall height, with no regard to proportion. Imagine if you could select frame sizes like you do when buying slacks. If you need a larger waist, you're not locked into a longer inseam, and vice-versa. Imagine frame sized being available based on seat tube and top tube length independently (within a reasonable range of course). Of course, no one other than custom builders does that, and certainly no one did BITD. So if you're what a local fitter here calls a "shortback", that is, your height is mostly in your legs rather than your torso, there's no "right" fit with the typical frame proportions and stock components. So it usually comes down to choosing between a "tall enough but too long" frame with a short-reach stem (and possibly a minimal- or zero-offset seatpost, or a "right reach but not tall enough" frame with a tall seatpost/stem. (That, or $$$$ for a custom.)
This is pretty much me. My current ride fits great at 60cm frame with 57cm TT and 10cm stem. Bar height will come down, but the reach is spot on.


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'72 Rickert Frameset, 63 cm, $250. Reynolds 531.

I love checking the CL bike ads for Monterey, since lots of exotic bikes turn up there, plus I'm always dying for an excuse to drive over, bring my bike along and hit Hwy 1 and Big Sur.

https://monterey.craigslist.org/bik/...837680471.html



"72 Rickert" might make a good username, if it's not already taken.
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Back into the subject of the topic:
This poor ProFlex is done for.

ProFlex 954 Frame (brentwood / oakley)

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I'd grab that for the Magura hydraulic brakes. Frame might actually be a prototype since the rear suspension in production did not look quite like that. Do not expect to find any good elastomers. I doubt any new ones are being produced and anything left over from those days will have hardened into pucks and have no compliance.
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Hi all. My husband is getting a little overheated over this Miyata 610 that's just slightly too tall for him at 58 cm. We'd get it, but we have no more room. At all.

Aaand the pic doesn't want to load. All original, from handlebars to pedals, and it's red. Red goes faster, it is known. Anyone want to rescue this beauty and put him out of his misery?
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Hi all. My husband is getting a little overheated over this Miyata 610 that's just slightly too tall for him at 58 cm. We'd get it, but we have no more room. At all.

Aaand the pic doesn't want to load. All original, from handlebars to pedals, and it's red. Red goes faster, it is known. Anyone want to rescue this beauty and put him out of his misery?
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The red speed advantage is cancelled out by the barn dust......
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Originally Posted by royleroy
This is pretty much me. My current ride fits great at 60cm frame with 57cm TT and 10cm stem. Bar height will come down, but the reach is spot on.



Yup. That's how 22.5" treks fit me, and I'm 5'10". But to make them fit I need "a lot" (like two, two and a half fists) of seat post exposed, and then I need a taller stem so I'm not cranked way down looking for the handle bars. Your bike looks more balanced than most. Nice thing about bigger frames is how they can hide most of a technomic. You can use one and just extend it a couple cm taller than a standard steering stem and it still looks good.
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Full Campagnolo with brifters for $175
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Trek 950 $ 50.00 in So Cal

It is still raining early Trek MTB here in so cal. A little rough and too small for me but for 50.00............

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lg...839225904.html

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^^^^ And a lugged one, to boot. But that saddle position !
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Dirty and needs close examination that the components aren't completely shot, but it could be worth it.
Jamis, 631 Reynolds frame, $123.

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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
'72 Rickert Frameset, 63 cm, $250. Reynolds 531.

I love checking the CL bike ads for Monterey, since lots of exotic bikes turn up there, plus I'm always dying for an excuse to drive over, bring my bike along and hit Hwy 1 and Big Sur.

https://monterey.craigslist.org/bik/...837680471.html



"72 Rickert" might make a good username, if it's not already taken.
Very nice frame.
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For $50!
You could take off the pump and the Belt and add a cheap seat and hang in the garage. Wait a few weeks and sell it when spring hits and make a few bucks.

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