Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

eBay / CraigsList finds - "Are you looking for one of these!?" Part II

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

eBay / CraigsList finds - "Are you looking for one of these!?" Part II

Old 10-28-19, 10:22 PM
  #52476  
RiddleOfSteel
Master Parts Rearranger
 
RiddleOfSteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Portlandia's Kuiper Belt, OR
Posts: 4,513

Bikes: 1982 Trek 720 - 1985 Trek 620 - Other luminaries past and present

Mentioned: 216 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1482 Post(s)
Liked 1,783 Times in 894 Posts
Oh my, people, we have an essentially pristine, barely used, nearly-all-original 1985 Trek 660 for just $150!! 61cm or 24" per the catalog. In Portland.

RiddleOfSteel is offline  
Likes For RiddleOfSteel:
Old 10-29-19, 10:30 AM
  #52477  
Retrogrouch731
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: hoosier country
Posts: 45

Bikes: 73 Cinelli SC, 77 Trek TX900, 85 Masi Prestige, 85 Gios Professional, 86 Fuji Opus III, 86 Pro Miyata, 87 Koga Miyata FullPro, 89 Trek 660, 91 De Rosa Pro, 91 Cinelli SC, 91 Gary Fisher Procaliber, 91 Stumperjumper comp, 92 Serotta Colorado TG

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Liked 63 Times in 18 Posts
Here is a JP Weigle in Chicago. I tried to purchase this bike but the seller stopped messaging me. We had exchanged several emails and even were to the point of setting up a day and time to meet and then nothing. That was 2 weeks ago and the bike is still posted and the post keeps getting renewed. Not sure what the deal is exactly, if it is a scam or something else. I asked for a few more close up photos and a shot of the bottom bracket and the messages stopped. I was serious about buying this.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/b...997594002.html

Last edited by Retrogrouch731; 10-29-19 at 10:34 AM.
Retrogrouch731 is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 10:58 AM
  #52478  
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,699
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 899 Post(s)
Liked 518 Times in 313 Posts
Originally Posted by Retrogrouch731
Here is a JP Weigle in Chicago. I tried to purchase this bike but the seller stopped messaging me. We had exchanged several emails and even were to the point of setting up a day and time to meet and then nothing. That was 2 weeks ago and the bike is still posted and the post keeps getting renewed. Not sure what the deal is exactly, if it is a scam or something else. I asked for a few more close up photos and a shot of the bottom bracket and the messages stopped. I was serious about buying this.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/b...997594002.html
That bike has been posted forever. I contacted him when he had it listed for a billion dollars and asked what he actually wanted for it, and was told $1500. But yeah, hard to know what's up. I know a bunch of folks have contacted him and no sale, so I gather he isn't exactly motivated.

I am more surprised that the Eisentraut is still sitting.

Last edited by due ruote; 10-29-19 at 11:13 AM.
due ruote is offline  
Likes For due ruote:
Old 10-29-19, 11:05 AM
  #52479  
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,699
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 899 Post(s)
Liked 518 Times in 313 Posts
Very nice '83 Pana/Schwinn Super Sport on S side of Chicago.
1983 Schwinn Super Sport - $200 (Tinley Park)

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/b...009445252.html
due ruote is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 01:59 PM
  #52480  
Rocket-Sauce 
Port
 
Rocket-Sauce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 9,287

Bikes: 2022 Soma Fog Cutter, 2021 Calfee Draqonfly 44, 1984 Peter Mooney, 2017 Soma Stanyan, 1990 Fuji Ace, 1990 Bridgestone RB-1, 1995 Independent Fabrications Track, 2003 Calfee Dragonfly Pro

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 915 Post(s)
Liked 1,536 Times in 899 Posts
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...8528956978439/
New Old Stock Vintage Centurion Ironman Bikes --Your Choice 1986/1987Providence, RI about a day ago $850
Rocket-Sauce is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 02:26 PM
  #52481  
J.Higgins 
2-Wheeled Fool
 
J.Higgins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,486

Bikes: Surly Ogre, Brompton

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1385 Post(s)
Liked 675 Times in 456 Posts
Originally Posted by due ruote
That bike has been posted forever. I contacted him when he had it listed for a billion dollars and asked what he actually wanted for it, and was told $1500. But yeah, hard to know what's up. I know a bunch of folks have contacted him and no sale, so I gather he isn't exactly motivated.
This sort of thing happens to me a lot. Its as if the seller has an aversion to working too hard at answering questions, then the sale isnt worth it to them.

Also some people have overly-strict rules of play. One time, there was a bike one CL that was listed for a month. I'd been waffling over it long enough and finally shot the guy an email stating, "Hello! If you still have this bike, I'll take it." Listen, he replied so nastily, saying, "Why the eff wouldn't I have it still? You saw the ad for it didn't you? Is there something wrong with you?" I was shocked. I replied nicely asking him if he still wanted to sell it, giving him the benefit of the doubt that perhaps he's having a bad day. He said that yes, he still wanted to sell it. I asked if he was flexible on the price, and that's when all hell broke loose. I haven't heard that kind of cursing and name calling since my mother was still alive. I shook my head to clear it, but that was it for me.

All kinds of people out there for sure. Unfortunately not many of them know how to buy or sell anything. My personal code for buying something is not to chase ANY potential buyer. I'll answer any question thoroughly and promptly. I'll take any pictures he wants. If I answer questions and the deal seems to be lubricated and running nicely, I'll drop the guy/gal a line and ask them if they are still interested, and that's about it.

Hey after all... this whole bike thing has to be fun, otherwise what's the point, right?
J.Higgins is offline  
Likes For J.Higgins:
Old 10-29-19, 03:58 PM
  #52482  
2cam16
Senior Member
 
2cam16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Mateo,Ca.
Posts: 4,271

Bikes: TRIMMED DOWN THE HERD

Mentioned: 44 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1066 Post(s)
Liked 846 Times in 552 Posts
Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...8528956978439/
New Old Stock Vintage Centurion Ironman Bikes --Your Choice 1986/1987Providence, RI about a day ago $850
2cam16 is offline  
Likes For 2cam16:
Old 10-29-19, 04:19 PM
  #52483  
francophile 
PM me your cotters
 
francophile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,915
Mentioned: 80 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1135 Post(s)
Liked 585 Times in 420 Posts
Originally Posted by NoControl
I'd been waffling over it long enough and finally shot the guy an email stating, "Hello! If you still have this bike, I'll take it." Listen, he replied so nastily, saying, "Why the eff wouldn't I have it still? You saw the ad for it didn't you? Is there something wrong with you?" I was shocked.
Devil's advocate for a sec ... Not sure what your CL is like, but here in Atlanta, if you list anything, you get harvesters and scammers 90% of your inquiries saying "If you still have <item> I'll take it". After a month of getting nothing but that and thinking you're being hammered on all sides, then to get another one ... that's enough to send someone over the edge. Then, when you realize this is a real human and not someone from Nigeria, you come down off your guard, then they want to initiate a haggle sight-unseen?

I dunno. Maybe it's because I have three bikes up for sale and I'm getting lots of tire kickers and have been stood up on meets three times already, and my truck caught fire this morning on the way to work, but ... I can totally see how a rational human being could be in that person's boat. Selling on CL is stressful. It sucks. But there just isn't any better way to wheel and deal locally.
francophile is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 05:15 PM
  #52484  
J.Higgins 
2-Wheeled Fool
 
J.Higgins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,486

Bikes: Surly Ogre, Brompton

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1385 Post(s)
Liked 675 Times in 456 Posts
Originally Posted by francophile
Devil's advocate for a sec ... Not sure what your CL is like, but here in Atlanta, if you list anything, you get harvesters and scammers 90% of your inquiries saying "If you still have <item> I'll take it". After a month of getting nothing but that and thinking you're being hammered on all sides, then to get another one ... that's enough to send someone over the edge. Then, when you realize this is a real human and not someone from Nigeria, you come down off your guard, then they want to initiate a haggle sight-unseen?

I dunno. Maybe it's because I have three bikes up for sale and I'm getting lots of tire kickers and have been stood up on meets three times already, and my truck caught fire this morning on the way to work, but ... I can totally see how a rational human being could be in that person's boat. Selling on CL is stressful. It sucks. But there just isn't any better way to wheel and deal locally.
I dont like to brag. Its just not in my nature. However, I am a well-seasoned CL buyer/seller. Remember me mentioning that everyone has a "personal code of ethics" concerning buying a selling? There's a huge technique. It also helps to have a BS in Marketing Science. *wink*

1. Put into your ad the words: I will not respond to ads without a return phone number. Give me your phone number and I will call you as soon as I can. It works like magic, especially if you adhere to it. I get a lot of "I'll take it" emails. I reply, "Surely. Send me your phone number and I'll call you back. If I get nothing but radio silence I delete the email after a couple days and move on. I'm all about the theory that if they really want it, they'll do it my way. If they are smart enough to make a lucid decision about this, then they'll do what it takes to keep them and myself safe.

2. I usually try to deal in higher-end bikes now. It weeds out the dirtbags. My philosophy is that if I know what I'm looking at, I'll be able to judge if the other guy knows what he's looking at, and calibrate the deal accordingly.

3. Wheeling and Dealing: The more you put into it, the more you get out of it. Karma, folks. Its real. Every potential buyer is your best friend. Some people will never resonate with you, obviously, but I've met some great people over CL deals, and many I consider my friends and friendly bicycle related contacts.

I could seriously write a book about the philosophy of CL deals and dealing. I could ramble here until I run out of cabernet... that would be bad!

But I'm done rambling.
J.Higgins is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 05:22 PM
  #52485  
bark_eater 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Eastern Shore, MD
Posts: 2,012

Bikes: Road ready: 1993 Koga Miyata City Liner Touring Hybrid, 1989 Centurion Sport DLX, "I Blame GP" Bridgestone CB-1. Projects: Yea, I got a problem....

Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 692 Post(s)
Liked 565 Times in 343 Posts
Originally Posted by francophile
90% of your inquiries saying "If you still have <item> I'll take it". .
So whats the secret code? That all I can think of asking when a good deal pops up. I always include my phone number. 10% of the time I get a reply, and 10% of those reply's lead to looking at a bike, beyond that the odds change because my lack of impulse control...
bark_eater is online now  
Old 10-29-19, 05:29 PM
  #52486  
malcala622 
Senior Member
 
malcala622's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pico Rivera, CA
Posts: 4,217

Bikes: 1983 Basso Gap...2013 Colnago CX-1...2015 Bianchi Intenso

Mentioned: 88 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1166 Post(s)
Liked 1,190 Times in 665 Posts
Really tall peugeot on offerup

Check out this VINTAGE PEUGEOT for $120 on OfferUp https://offerup.com/item/detail/772667544/
__________________
2015 Bianchi Intenso





malcala622 is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 05:33 PM
  #52487  
francophile 
PM me your cotters
 
francophile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,915
Mentioned: 80 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1135 Post(s)
Liked 585 Times in 420 Posts
Originally Posted by NoControl
But I'm done rambling.



It's not a ramble. It's legit. But not everyone is as savvy as you. Those that aren't (in my experience) tend to get agitated more easily. Here you need to be wary of what you post in ads. I have some choice examples I won't post here to derail the topic. But PM me if you want a laugh. I can share some ... lets say "interesting" responses from one especially duchey idjut here in ATL critical of us BF'ers and vintage enthusiasts who seems to think they're anonymous.

Originally Posted by bark_eater
So whats the secret code? I always include my phone number. 10% of the time I get a reply, and 10% of those reply's lead to looking at a bike...
You never truly know. What I've found works in my area 90% of the time is starting with, "I know how many scammers and spammers tend to reply on CL, but I'm a real live human here in town and I'm genuinely interested in buying if you're available to show the bike. Here's my phone number, I'm open to email, text or a call to plan it out." If I don't get a reply that day, I usually get a reply within a day or two saying someone else was in line ahead of me and took the bike. Just happened this weekend with a Torpado @greg3rd48 tipped me off about this weekend.
francophile is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 05:35 PM
  #52488  
francophile 
PM me your cotters
 
francophile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,915
Mentioned: 80 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1135 Post(s)
Liked 585 Times in 420 Posts
Originally Posted by malcala622
Really tall peugeot on offerup

Check out this VINTAGE PEUGEOT for $120 on OfferUp https://offerup.com/item/detail/772667544/
Looks like a late 60s/early 70s PX10 if I'm seeing that tiny fork crown correctly. But that fork may be bent, buyer beware.
francophile is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 05:39 PM
  #52489  
jetboy 
Senior Member
 
jetboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 3,417

Bikes: centurion cinelli equipe, look hinault 753, Zunow z-1, 83 stumpy sport

Mentioned: 65 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 802 Post(s)
Liked 315 Times in 174 Posts
If I am really interested I usually list some days and times I could come and get it. Not so much for bikes, but other .. larger objects- its nice to list that you willb e bringing a truck, a dolly, and a friend. basically show that you have the resources to actually do the thing as 90% of the CL responses seem to just be from lonely people pretending they want to buy a thing.. or outright scammers.
jetboy is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 05:42 PM
  #52490  
malcala622 
Senior Member
 
malcala622's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pico Rivera, CA
Posts: 4,217

Bikes: 1983 Basso Gap...2013 Colnago CX-1...2015 Bianchi Intenso

Mentioned: 88 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1166 Post(s)
Liked 1,190 Times in 665 Posts
Originally Posted by francophile
Looks like a late 60s/early 70s PX10 if I'm seeing that tiny fork crown correctly. But that fork may be bent, buyer beware.
Im sure it's just the angle of the picture

We'd need a better drive side picture to confirm.
__________________
2015 Bianchi Intenso






Last edited by malcala622; 10-29-19 at 05:48 PM.
malcala622 is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 05:46 PM
  #52491  
J.Higgins 
2-Wheeled Fool
 
J.Higgins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,486

Bikes: Surly Ogre, Brompton

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1385 Post(s)
Liked 675 Times in 456 Posts
Originally Posted by bark_eater
So whats the secret code? That all I can think of asking when a good deal pops up. I always include my phone number. 10% of the time I get a reply, and 10% of those reply's lead to looking at a bike, beyond that the odds change because my lack of impulse control...
It might be a sum of the whole. I'm at about 90% success rate using the following email to a prospective seller:

Hello,

I'll take this if you still have it. Please feel free to call or text.

Sincerely,

Seamus McGee
Ledzepplinville, NH
603-555-1234

Its matter-of-fact, and to the point. Telling them to call or text gives them freedom to choose. The "sincerely" adds a lot to it. The name and town here are obviously changed to protect the innocent (me), but letting the potential seller know who you are, and that you are earnest is a priceless bargaining tool.
J.Higgins is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 06:03 PM
  #52492  
Bianchigirll 
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 29,401

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 187 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2781 Post(s)
Liked 2,428 Times in 1,303 Posts
MAX tubed Dancelli anyone? $600, 60 CM. b It is in the "Steel is Real!!! Classic and Vintage Road Bikes

https://www.facebook.com/groups/4285...comment_follow

__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 07:46 PM
  #52493  
rccardr 
aka: Dr. Cannondale
 
rccardr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,648

Bikes: Pegoretti, Merckx ProSLX, Pelizzoli, Cannondale, Schwinn Tempo, Canyon, Richard Sachs, Davidson

Mentioned: 226 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2077 Post(s)
Liked 3,046 Times in 1,091 Posts
Hunh. I may have owned that Dancelli once upon a time. Only one I've ever seen like it.
BTW, impossible FD setup. Impossible.
__________________
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
rccardr is offline  
Old 10-30-19, 10:18 AM
  #52494  
cqlink 
Senior Member
 
cqlink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Detroit
Posts: 659

Bikes: '72 Paramount 15-9, '74 Schwinn Paramount P10-9, '73 Schwinn Super Sport, 1983 Schwinn Voyageur SP,17 Motobecane Cafe Noir, 1970 Raleigh Competition Tourist, 1999 Rans V-Rex

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 220 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 82 Times in 45 Posts
Smaller Schwinn Tempo - $100

https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/b...009851112.html

cqlink is offline  
Old 10-30-19, 10:22 AM
  #52495  
Unca_Sam
The dropped
 
Unca_Sam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 2,393

Bikes: Pake C'Mute Touring/Commuter Build, 1989 Kona Cinder Cone, 1995 Trek 5200, 1973 Raleigh Super Course FG, 1960/61 Montgomery Ward Hawthorne "thrift" 3 speed, by Hercules (sold) : 1966 Schwinn Deluxe Racer (sold)

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1731 Post(s)
Liked 1,006 Times in 691 Posts
Seller lists the size as 62 cm...
clearly not an xl frame...
Unca_Sam is offline  
Old 10-30-19, 10:22 AM
  #52496  
cqlink 
Senior Member
 
cqlink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Detroit
Posts: 659

Bikes: '72 Paramount 15-9, '74 Schwinn Paramount P10-9, '73 Schwinn Super Sport, 1983 Schwinn Voyageur SP,17 Motobecane Cafe Noir, 1970 Raleigh Competition Tourist, 1999 Rans V-Rex

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 220 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 82 Times in 45 Posts
Smaller Prelude - $150

https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/b...006159967.html

cqlink is offline  
Old 10-30-19, 10:30 AM
  #52497  
cqlink 
Senior Member
 
cqlink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Detroit
Posts: 659

Bikes: '72 Paramount 15-9, '74 Schwinn Paramount P10-9, '73 Schwinn Super Sport, 1983 Schwinn Voyageur SP,17 Motobecane Cafe Noir, 1970 Raleigh Competition Tourist, 1999 Rans V-Rex

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 220 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 82 Times in 45 Posts
Paramount Track - $1200

https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/b...009548861.html

cqlink is offline  
Old 10-30-19, 11:10 AM
  #52498  
Ballenxj
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 1,018

Bikes: Diamond Back Apex, Mongoose IBOC Aluminum Road Bike, SR road bike

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 515 Post(s)
Liked 164 Times in 115 Posts
Originally Posted by Retrogrouch731
Here is a JP Weigle in Chicago. I tried to purchase this bike but the seller stopped messaging me. We had exchanged several emails and even were to the point of setting up a day and time to meet and then nothing. That was 2 weeks ago and the bike is still posted and the post keeps getting renewed. Not sure what the deal is exactly, if it is a scam or something else. I asked for a few more close up photos and a shot of the bottom bracket and the messages stopped. I was serious about buying this.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/b...997594002.html
Curious, what makes this bike worth $2000, or even $1500. as mentioned later?
Ballenxj is offline  
Old 10-30-19, 11:57 AM
  #52499  
TenGrainBread 
Senior Member
 
TenGrainBread's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 2,602

Bikes: Alps, JP Routens, ANT, various Schwinns

Mentioned: 52 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1077 Post(s)
Liked 466 Times in 271 Posts
Originally Posted by Ballenxj
Curious, what makes this bike worth $2000, or even $1500. as mentioned later?
It's a boutique frame by a one-man custom shop with a years-long waiting list and a price tag that's probably around double that. I wouldn't buy it but as far as candidates for a $1500 bike this is a good one.
TenGrainBread is offline  
Old 10-30-19, 12:05 PM
  #52500  
Ballenxj
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 1,018

Bikes: Diamond Back Apex, Mongoose IBOC Aluminum Road Bike, SR road bike

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 515 Post(s)
Liked 164 Times in 115 Posts
Originally Posted by TenGrainBread
It's a boutique frame by a one-man custom shop with a years-long waiting list and a price tag that's probably around double that. I wouldn't buy it but as far as candidates for a $1500 bike this is a good one.
Thanks, so not as much to do with components, but more with the frame?
Ballenxj is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.