eBay / CraigsList finds - "Are you looking for one of these!?" Part II
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I have since poured over all of the pictures the Seller sent, zooming in on every detail, trying to read every name or number, researching what I found to see what I bought - and alas, cue my wife's (and now Merziac's) wisdom, if its too good to be true - well I didn't get full Campy '72 Paramount for $500, and my but honey - I had to act fast voice before someone buys their
n-th Paramount when I only have one and we will be soooo close on our Spring Break Trip...
I take solace in the mismatch of parts that do seem to be there and further satisfaction that I could later change the build specs without feeling guilty or remorseful of changing anything to an original spec classic
the good:
n-th Paramount when I only have one and we will be soooo close on our Spring Break Trip...
I take solace in the mismatch of parts that do seem to be there and further satisfaction that I could later change the build specs without feeling guilty or remorseful of changing anything to an original spec classic
the good:
- '72 Frameset fork and Campagnolo Headest in pretty good condition - less the incorrect head badge
- a nice Brooks Professional
- Campagnolo front Derailleur
- Maybe some high flange hubs, not 100% sure from the pics...
- Its going to be a nice day in Denver later this week and I plan to ride it
- Not original Nervar Star BSA Crankset wtih a 52/38 Chain Ring Set up
- 3TTT 95MM Stem and what appear to be Matching 3TTT Handle Bars (not currently installed)
- Some sort of "Aero 27.2 Seatpost" Not original - but will do
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I have since poured over all of the pictures the Seller sent, zooming in on every detail, trying to read every name or number, researching what I found to see what I bought - and alas, cue my wife's (and now Merziac's) wisdom, if its too good to be true - well I didn't get full Campy '72 Paramount for $500, and my but honey - I had to act fast voice before someone buys their
n-th Paramount when I only have one and we will be soooo close on our Spring Break Trip...
I take solace in the mismatch of parts that do seem to be there and further satisfaction that I could later change the build specs without feeling guilty or remorseful of changing anything to an original spec classic
the good:
n-th Paramount when I only have one and we will be soooo close on our Spring Break Trip...
I take solace in the mismatch of parts that do seem to be there and further satisfaction that I could later change the build specs without feeling guilty or remorseful of changing anything to an original spec classic
the good:
- '72 Frameset fork and Campagnolo Headest in pretty good condition - less the incorrect head badge
- a nice Brooks Professional
- Campagnolo front Derailleur
- Maybe some high flange hubs, not 100% sure from the pics...
- Its going to be a nice day in Denver later this week and I plan to ride it
- Not original Nervar Star BSA Crankset wtih a 52/38 Chain Ring Set up
- 3TTT 95MM Stem and what appear to be Matching 3TTT Handle Bars (not currently installed)
- Some sort of "Aero 27.2 Seatpost" Not original - but will do
Campy SP not hard to find.
Bird in the hand.

Forge ahead, carry on and welcome to the club.

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Jansen Oomen (frame) - $240 - LA, CA
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...596376835.html
New one to me
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...596376835.html
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Isn't the crack just in the cable guide?
Either way another reason to check well before buying (which I often forget.....)
Either way another reason to check well before buying (which I often forget.....)
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Another Bertoni??
Posted 20hrs ago in Attleboro, MA
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...49515940361475
Listed 20 hours ago in Attleboro, MA
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Posted 20hrs ago in Attleboro, MA
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...49515940361475
80’s Vintage Bertoni Road Bicycle
$200Listed 20 hours ago in Attleboro, MA
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- Condition
Used – good - Material
Aluminium







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And to state the obvious: it's (another) re-badged Vitus 979, second one of these with Bertoni branding posted in this last month!
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Another Bertoni??
Posted 20hrs ago in Attleboro, MA
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...49515940361475
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Posted 20hrs ago in Attleboro, MA
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80’s Vintage Bertoni Road Bicycle
$200Listed 20 hours ago in Attleboro, MA
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- Condition
Used – good - Material
Aluminium







Matrix is what became Cromor after the Trek lawyers sent their "cease and desist letter" to Columbus.
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Could be, but I can't see the screw that would hold it in place....Glued or pressure/pin fit?
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Don't beat me too hard. I have never seen a "quality" Ted Williams in the flesh....
This is a Sport Racer. I can't see if it has 531 sticker and/or Made in Austria sticker. Lugs do look cool. I do admire the idea of it being made of aluminum and then there's the BS pricing "$150$5,000".
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Ted Williams signature 10 speed by Sears
$150$15,000
Listed 14 hours ago in Charlotte, NC


I can't get a photo of the front of a Sport Racer that will load...
This is a Sport Racer. I can't see if it has 531 sticker and/or Made in Austria sticker. Lugs do look cool. I do admire the idea of it being made of aluminum and then there's the BS pricing "$150
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...31701456338859
Ted Williams signature 10 speed by Sears
$150$15,000
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Used – like new - Bicycle type
Road bike - Material
Aluminium


I can't get a photo of the front of a Sport Racer that will load...
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she's a beaut

don't even need a front pic

don't even need a front pic
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For the Williams above.
Driving me mental as I couldn't find a photo "head on" of the head tube. The photos I've seen of this model show really cool looking lugs.
Not sure if these were the 531 frame, Campagnolo equipped bikes I recall seeing in old ads.
Curiously, the old ads I saw look very similar to this one. Clearly the seatpost has been replaced - looks Sugino or Leprade not campy.
The oddity to me is that crankset. Original ads show what looks like the same cranks. Cranks should have been campy I believe but was campy still making cottered cranks in the '60's???
Driving me mental as I couldn't find a photo "head on" of the head tube. The photos I've seen of this model show really cool looking lugs.
Not sure if these were the 531 frame, Campagnolo equipped bikes I recall seeing in old ads.
Curiously, the old ads I saw look very similar to this one. Clearly the seatpost has been replaced - looks Sugino or Leprade not campy.
The oddity to me is that crankset. Original ads show what looks like the same cranks. Cranks should have been campy I believe but was campy still making cottered cranks in the '60's???
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Also just happens that the sliver-gray plastic (only color I ever saw for these guides) is fairly close in appearance to the aluminum BB shell of Vitus 979s.
I had a spare guide floating around in my spare parts bin for awhile, if it's still there I'll snap a pic and post it.
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Trek 7900 - $125 - Long Beach, CA
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This one has Shimano 700CX (apparently 1st hybrid specific, comparable to Ultegra?) new one to me.
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This one has Shimano 700CX (apparently 1st hybrid specific, comparable to Ultegra?) new one to me.

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