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adlai 07-16-09 03:12 PM

Good frames to look out for?
 
I'm increasingly interested in building a custom bicycle out of a good vintage steel frame. What are some good brands/models to look out for? I'd like to find a good frame cheap with reynolds tubing, replace components with more modern stuff. Thanks guys.

Picchio Special 07-16-09 04:01 PM

Why does it have to be Reynolds, perchance?

adlai 07-16-09 04:08 PM

it's just a name I see often. Basically, how can you tell a quality steel frame?

Picchio Special 07-16-09 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by adlai (Post 9294410)
it's just a name I see often. Basically, how can you tell a quality steel frame?

That probably should have been your first question. Do a search first, as this has been covered extensively. Don't mean to be standoffish, but this ground has been beaten flat and the grass is dead, so search away.

Casrider 07-16-09 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by adlai (Post 9294060)
I'd like to find a good frame cheap

something for nothing? :rolleyes:

wrk101 07-16-09 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by adlai (Post 9294060)
I'd like to find a good frame cheap with reynolds tubing,

Me too. Be prepared to spend a lot of time looking.

Blue Order 07-16-09 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by wrk101 (Post 9295202)
Me too. Be prepared to spend a lot of time looking.

In the past year, I bought two C&V cromoly cyclocross bikes off eBay, each for $100. The key was each was listed by a seller who didn't know what they were selling, and thus, the bikes were advertised poorly, and nobody else bid on them.

Of course, that was after searching daily for two years on one of those bikes...

JunkYardBike 07-16-09 06:39 PM

A good way to begin the learning process is to post potential frames in threads here: pics are best, but descriptions of decals and any other stamped letters and numbers are helpful too. We've all been through this process, and it takes a little while, but it's worth it.

m750rider 07-16-09 06:57 PM

Someone mentioned early Treks are good and I agree. I have a 1978 710, Reynolds 531 with a mix of Campy and Suntour Superbe components. It is about 21-22 lbs and rides great. My guess it's on the low end of your price scale. If you find one of these snap it up.

Procione 07-16-09 06:59 PM

If you see good frameset made from Columbus SLX or SL, or any flavor of TI tubbing, below $150 let me know.

YoKev 07-16-09 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by adlai (Post 92940)
...I'd like to find a good frame cheap...

Before I say "choose one", a welcome is due. Welcome!

Define cheap.

peripatetic 07-16-09 07:14 PM

Tange, Ishiwata, Columbus, Reynolds. Do searches under those names and learn about the various tubings. You could probably find descriptions on Wikipedia, too. If your size is out of the norm, it'll be harder to find one, but easier to get it for a lower cost. Good luck.

Blue Order 07-16-09 07:17 PM

Valite (proprietary to Fuji), especially the triple-butted and quad-butted stuff.

Triple-butted cromoly Univegas, made by Miyata using their proprietary cromoly.

Blue Order 07-16-09 07:20 PM

Always overlooked, but very good quality: Vitus cromoly.

cycleheimer 07-16-09 07:38 PM

Why not look for a complete bike? You can change the components to your liking, holding onto the old ones for "posterity", and will not be paying a premium price if you look around a bit. You can also make sure it fits and "feels" right. You can find nice, older Treks in great condition for $100 to $200. Why pay that for a frame only? Plus, you may find some of the components on a complete bike are worth using. Of course if you have alot of money to spend, why not use some of it to throw a B.F. B-B-Q for the nice all the nice B.F. members? :thumb:

leftthread 07-16-09 07:45 PM

Saw a nice Fuji steel frame a few days ago for $10.
But it was a mixte...:D

How about this Burley Harlow?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Burley-Harlow-Fr...3A1%7C294%3A50

Not to be confused with Marlowe, as in Bruce Lee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAP_JJPsFV4

big chainring 07-16-09 07:58 PM

Check out mytenspeeds.com. He has lots of info on what to look for when buying a vintage bike. He's on the forum from time to time also. Nice bikes to look at too while you're reading.

RobbieTunes 07-16-09 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by peripatetic (Post 9295451)
Tange, Ishiwata, Columbus, Reynolds. Do searches under those names and learn about the various tubings. You could probably find descriptions on Wikipedia, too. If your size is out of the norm, it'll be harder to find one, but easier to get it for a lower cost. Good luck.

What he says, +1, and maybe Kuwahara if you want an older one without braze-ons.

RobbieTunes 07-16-09 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Blue Order (Post 9295482)
Always overlooked, but very good quality: Vitus cromoly.

I've nearly decided with 100% certainty that my Cilo build is a Vitus frame, but the tubing is SLX...any thoughts on that?

sailorbenjamin 07-16-09 09:00 PM

The Japanese built a lot of really good bikes that are available cheap. They're pretty interchangable, too.
I'm partial to Raleighs. Less interchangable but you kow you'll like it when it's done, especially if it's a 531 Raleigh.

Blue Order 07-17-09 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 9295736)
I've nearly decided with 100% certainty that my Cilo build is a Vitus frame, but the tubing is SLX...any thoughts on that?

No, not really. I actually meant frames built from Vitus tubing, but Vitus also made frames. I'm kind of surprised they'd use Columbus tubing on a Vitus frame, but undoubtedly somebody here will have some thoughts about that.

Blue Order 07-17-09 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by sailorbenjamin (Post 9296081)
The Japanese built a lot of really good bikes that are available cheap. They're pretty interchangable, too.

I've got two Japanese road bikes, a Fuji del Rey and a Lotus Odyssey. The Lotus is the most expensive bike I've ever bought ($400), the Fuji was one of the cheapest ($100); both are such sweet-riding bikes, and so beautiful to look at... :love:


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