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RoboIsGod 07-17-09 05:02 PM

Help identify a really old road bike
 
Old bike. only with a "C" on the badge. older style brake levers, not with suicide levers, cotter cranks, rear brake line stays on top of bar with what seems to say "REG" on them. breaks, and levers say Balilla. front derailleur says made in france.

any idea what this could be


**UPDATE**

okay, got the bike and cleaned it up. i have before and after pictures. like i said before, the break components are Ballila, and the shifters and front derailleur are Simplex, but the back derailleur is shimano lark ss, which im guessing isnt original. the simplex components say made in france and the ballila made in italy.

it came with a front wheel only, with the tire marked as Pirelli. The tire has additional writing on it- " AV. Alexandre De Gusmao 48(?) Santo Andre S.F". the hub is stamped " Brampton Made In England."

The badge only has a C. i have found no labels anywhere else and there is no visible serial.

So my question to you, bikeforums, what make is this bike? is it worth anything? My best guess is its something Italian. i originally planned to just clean it and sell it for whatever it was worth, but now after taking the parts off and cleaning it, i think the bike looks quite nice, maybe even right for a fixed conversion. would it be worth a complete restoration or should would turning it into a fixed gear bike be more appropriate? i was thinking if its not really worth much, i could get it repainted and have the head badge painted on because right now its flimsy and falling off.

(im pretty sure the yellow paint around the lugs was painted on by some idiot)

Before:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01318.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01295.jpg

After:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01347.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01346.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01348.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01349.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01355.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01351.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01353.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...7/DSC01354.jpg

Thanks!

EraserGirl 07-17-09 05:04 PM

picture's worth a thousand words

RoboIsGod 07-17-09 05:08 PM

sorry I'm looking at it now, can't take a picture.

rear derailleur is a Shimano Lark SS

ozneddy 07-17-09 05:17 PM

[IMG]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...threadpics.jpg[/IMG]

gurry 07-18-09 01:52 AM

I bought a bike with a C on the head tube. Don't know what make it is. No model name either. Here is a pic of it.

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/p...u/100_5423.jpg

ozneddy 07-18-09 03:05 AM

Canondale maybe ?

Road Fan 07-18-09 04:15 AM

The Balilla brake levers and the French derailleur say it's old (way older than Cannondale). Old enough that the equipment is probably only partly original (so the Shimano rear derailleur is irrelevant), and that the build spec is inaccessible. That means we can't say anything about the frame maker based on the parts. The only way we're going to be able to say something about the frame is to see pictures of the frame.

So, come back when you have some.

jacksbike 07-18-09 04:21 AM

Obviously need a picture. Ballila brakes were used on older (1960'2) era Italian road bikes. Simplex derailleurs were used on French, Italian, etc., European road bikes.

wrk101 07-18-09 05:03 AM

Looks like a department store mountain bike to me.

ozneddy 07-18-09 05:24 AM

OK I,m rubbing the envelope against my forehead and I,m seeing -----Casati !

Im Fixed 07-18-09 05:59 AM

Rub harder

Ronsonic 07-18-09 10:37 AM

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JunkYardBike 07-18-09 10:43 AM

RoboIsGod, why would he need a bike psychic?

nlerner 07-18-09 02:36 PM

I'm just troubled that a bike from the 1970s is described as "really old." What does that make me?

Neal

Ex Pres 07-18-09 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 9305523)
I'm just troubled that a bike from the 1970s is described as "really old." What does that make me?

Neal

ask your grandchildren :)

nlerner 07-18-09 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Bob Barker (Post 9305609)
ask your grandchildren :)

Hey, I'm not that old, Mr. Price is Right!

Neal

frpax 07-18-09 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 9305523)
What does that make me?

Neal

Classic and/or Vintage

RoboIsGod 07-18-09 04:45 PM

hey, sorry for not having pictures yet guys. i submitted my original post from my phone as i was looking at the bike.
The bike is definitely a nice old road bike, all white with yellow lining the lugs. the break levers are those i've only seen on really old bikes, single lever with no suicide lever, no hoods, just metal levers. again, the badge of the bike just has a fancy C on it. i couldn't find a serial #, but i plan on going back to the guys house and either picking it up or taking some pictures. i could probably get the thing for $15, think its worth it?

USAZorro 07-18-09 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 9305523)
I'm just troubled that a bike from the 1970s is described as "really old." What does that make me?

Neal

70's? Looks more like 90's. From the thread title, I was expecting wooden rims and solid rubber tyres.

Whoops, that's not the OP's bike.

USAZorro 07-18-09 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by RoboIsGod (Post 9306100)
hey, sorry for not having pictures yet guys. i submitted my original post from my phone as i was looking at the bike.
The bike is definitely a nice old road bike, all white with yellow lining the lugs. the break levers are those i've only seen on really old bikes, single lever with no suicide lever, no hoods, just metal levers. again, the badge of the bike just has a fancy C on it. i couldn't find a serial #, but i plan on going back to the guys house and either picking it up or taking some pictures. i could probably get the thing for $15, think its worth it?

$15.00? Get it.

JunkYardBike 07-18-09 05:16 PM

Velobase.com has a headbadge gallery. Maybe it's there?

http://www.velobase.com/HeadbadgeGallery.aspx

C's start on page 8 as of this posting.

SingeDebile 07-18-09 05:38 PM

at 15 bucks you could always sell it for more later, weather or not it turns out to be a very nice bike or not.

buy it

Im Fixed 07-18-09 05:40 PM

Lark derailers entry level .... C rap

Oldpeddaller 07-18-09 07:40 PM

For $15 it's got to be worth it - Balilla levers alone could fetch more than that. When you've bartered the price down to £10.00 and taken it home, show us some photos! - Oh, and sorry - I'm pretty sure the C isn't going to stand for Confente!

RoboIsGod 07-18-09 07:51 PM

i looked on velobase and the closest badge seemed to be that of Casati. the badge that i saw did not have the triangle in the background, or the words Casati. i think i might try and pick up the bike tomorrow.

http://www.velobase.com/HeadbadgeGal...2-9661e3fc2a8f


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