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Old 08-02-09, 04:57 PM
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Klein Quantum - Going to Test, Opinions Desired

Greetings all!

I have been caught in the hell that is "not quite ready to buy $1500 roadbike" and "i'm seriously hurting myself by riding bikes that are crappy and not my size". I have been looking for a vintage Trek / high-end Schwinn / Bianchi / really anything that is good, steel, vintage, and has been kept up well.

Well, after a nightmarish year of following leads that vanish, I decided to get it over with and pick up a 105-loaded Cannondale CAAD new from the bike store. I decided to get over my fear of aluminum.

Then this thing came onto my radar:
http://salem.craigslist.org/bik/1296026334.html

I am 6"3, inseam 35.5".
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Old 08-02-09, 05:14 PM
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whew...
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looks nice!
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Old 08-02-09, 05:51 PM
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$700 is 50% of MSRP. Seems kinda steep but ebay completed lisitngs confirm it may or may not be worth $700. Aside from that Kleins are nice bikes.

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I like Klein. I own two - a 1989 and a 1996. I believe they will be among the future "collectables". Both mine were bought at bargain prices or I doubt I would own them. And I would not give up any of my steel framed bikes for them. It should be obvious that our riding habits likely differ.

This one is not a bargain by any stretch. It borders on the opposite extreme.

If it fits you, if you like the ride, if it is in 100% rideable condition it is not unfairly priced but the seller thinks more of it than I ever would. EVERYTHING about it should please you for that price.

Look at it another way.....you can buy a LOT of bike for $700 if a steel frame is your real desire. There are steel frame bikes - C&V and otherwise - for sale here on BF frequently in that realm of cost. Not to mention from a lot of good Ebay sellers.

DiabloScott is the BF go-to Klein guy, I think. Shoot him a PM on this.

Based on the tone of your post, I would say you're better served to be patient and become more focused on how to get exactly what you want for the same $700 bucks.
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Old 08-03-09, 03:11 AM
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I just rebuilt one from a frame that I found on CL, that size, by the time I was done I spent about $300 more than what that one is going for. Too much? Maybe, but I enjoy it and l like the way it rides.

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Old 08-03-09, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
$700 is 50% of MSRP. Seems kinda steep but ebay completed lisitngs confirm it may or may not be worth $700. Aside from that Kleins are nice bikes.

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Based on my literature, asking price is 38% of 1996 MSLP ($1829 US). I don't think that's overly high assuming the condition is as good as it appears and the owner states. Be aware that the owner appears to be keeping his good pedals and appears to have thown on a set of cheapies for sale. Kleins don't work well for me, but a lot of bigger riders like them.
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Old 08-03-09, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
Based on my literature, asking price is 38% of 1996 MSLP ($1829 US). I don't think that's overly high assuming the condition is as good as it appears and the owner states. Be aware that the owner appears to be keeping his good pedals and appears to have thown on a set of cheapies for sale. Kleins don't work well for me, but a lot of bigger riders like them.
Tom,

I'm not a Klein expert by any stretch but I think the CL bike is a regular Quantum w/ Campy Mirage versus a Quantum II w/ Mirage. I dont know the difference between the 2 but the MSRP's were $1428 and $1829 respectively.
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Originally Posted by Oregon Southpaw View Post

I have been caught in the hell that is "not quite ready to buy $1500 roadbike" and "i'm seriously hurting myself by riding bikes that are crappy and not my size". I have been looking for a vintage Trek / high-end Schwinn / Bianchi / really anything that is good, steel, vintage, and has been kept up well.
I was in a similar frame of mind last year. I started checking out the local CL bikes; one of them was a Klein Quantum, in my size. I found it too stiff for my liking.

The bicycle/cyclist interaction is such a personal thing that I'm not sure that any review, either on-line or in print, is really worth anything. Very fun to read, but at the end of the day, you really just have to ride it.
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Old 08-03-09, 09:51 AM
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I was in a similar frame of mind last year. I started checking out the local CL bikes; one of them was a Klein Quantum, in my size. I found it too stiff for my liking.

The bicycle/cyclist interaction is such a personal thing that I'm not sure that any review, either on-line or in print, is really worth anything. Very fun to read, but at the end of the day, you really just have to ride it.
Stiff is what those bikes were all about. Kleins were fitted with a number of different forks, the ride might be tuned a bit with a modern plastic fork.
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serial # 59e1095166

That would indicate a 59cm frame (smaller than the poster's measured 62c-t, built in 95 but definitely a 96 Quantum Mirage model. Good addition to my database.

I'm not sure about the pressed-in BB for 1996, might be an issue, stem is obviously quill so that's not an issue.

Also not sure I like that fork but maybe that's just me.

Klein Prime tires 700X25C presta-valve Wow, I've never heard of those; they must be 15 years old - makes me think this bike hasn't been ridden in 14 years.

Is it worth $700? Probably, I'd look around at what else is available for the same price to make sure I was going to be happy with my decision but you wouldn't be getting ripped off. Far superior to any Cannondale ever produced.

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Old 08-03-09, 11:19 AM
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I have always been a Klein fan, just built up an '03 Q-Carbon recently. Kleins are relatively light, nice and stiff, and I have yet to see one that wasn't a head turner... I think the answer to this is simply if you like the bike, it fit's and feels good then buy it. The value of anything older/vintage is what you are willing to pay for it and if you are happy then that is what matters. And if it fit's and you are happy then you are going to ride. And riding is what it is about afterall.... Figure on replacing the tires/tubes, and maybe a tune-up from the LBS if you aren't mechanically inclined, and is worthy of pretty much any up-grade you wish to throw at her. You can't go wrong with a Klein, IMO anyway.
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Old 08-03-09, 11:31 AM
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Thanks everybody for all of the input. I appreciate it immensely - I know the history of some of these manufacturers, and know people who love them, but this wide range of information is priceless.

As it turns out, I called the guy and told him that I didn't think riding it would really be fair to him, since I wasn't wanting to spend the full "firm" asking price.

As somebody else mentioned before, I think this is a case of me being very eager to get a bike and not necessarily thinking through my needs, budget, riding style.
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Old 08-03-09, 12:19 PM
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It's still worth it to ride it. #1 - You'll get to try something different. #2 - It might reset your expectations on price vs performance vs features. #3 - If he doesn't sell it soon, then he might be calling you.
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