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Old 08-02-09, 09:32 PM
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Chrome fork question

I am looking to get a chrome fork. The frame I am putting it on was made for 27" wheels, but I will be putting 700c's on them. The question is, do I get a fork made for 27" wheels, or 700c wheels? I am thinking the 700c size fork, but maybe I'm wrong.

Also, any suggestions on chrome forks?

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Old 08-02-09, 11:29 PM
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Putting a 700c fork on a 27" bike isn't going to make that much difference to the steering if you're using 700c wheels. The front will sit a little lower, increasing the head angle a bit, but not enough to change the handling a whole lot as long as you can get an approximate match on the rake. In other words, don't put a 43mm rake racing fork on a Raleigh Super Course. Also be sure your brake calipers are long enough to reach the 700c rims.
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oldbobcat is correct it will change the angles a bit but not much. your brakes will be the bigest problem. with a 27" fork you will likely need a 'long reach' brake caliper for both wheels. if you use a 700 fork you may end up needing a long reach for the rear wheel and a short reach for the front. I think most modern road brakes allow for brake pad adjustment from 39 to 49mm (measured from the pivot bolt) good luck
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Hi end 27" chrome forks have become quite hard to find. What bike are you working with?
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Old 08-04-09, 07:00 AM
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There's a low end 27" chrome fork on eBay.
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More important than the fork's wheel size is that its rake be compatible with the frame's head tube angle. In order to get stable and neutral steering, the trail needs to be positive but not excessive. As the frame head tube angle increase (gets steeper), the fork rake must decrease accordingly and vice versa. So when shopping for a fork, don't put a touring fork with a lot of rake on a racing frame with a steep head tube angle.
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Old 08-04-09, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop View Post
There's a low end 27" chrome fork on eBay.
You can get that same fork from Niagara for $13.58 plus around $9 shipping instead of the same fork on eBay for $24.70 plus $9.38 for shipping.

http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=10828

The fork to get is that Tange fork that is currently on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/27-27-INCH-CHROM...d=p3286.c0.m14
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That Niagara one is very reasonable. I wish I lived in the States. We pay a fortune for everything here. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I'm rebuilding an old Dawes. Originally, just the lower few inches of the fork legs were chrome, and the rest was green to match the bike frame. When I stripped it all down, I discovered that the whole fork is chromed, and part of it was painted over. The chrome isn't in bad condition, and my first impulse was to keep it chrome and not paint it, but I wondered if it would look odd. Do people often have a chrome fork with a painted frame? Would I find a picture?
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Do people often have a chrome fork with a painted frame? Would I find a picture?
Here is my Viscount with the chrome fork from Niagara.

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Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
You can get that same fork from Niagara for $13.58 plus around $9 shipping instead of the same fork on eBay for $24.70 plus $9.38 for shipping.

http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=10828

The fork to get is that Tange fork that is currently on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/27-27-INCH-CHROM...d=p3286.c0.m14
The fork to get on eBay is the one you shouldn't get because you can get the same *** from Niagra cheaper? Did you mean to link to something else?
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop View Post
The fork to get on eBay is the one you shouldn't get because you can get the same *** from Niagra cheaper? Did you mean to link to something else?
Yes. I posted the wrong link. Here is the Tange fork link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-TANGE-5B...d=p3286.c0.m14
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Old 08-04-09, 10:49 AM
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Thanks for the picture, CB. By the way, I used to ride a CB450. That Viscount is a good-looking bike, and the quill pedals with clips and straps give it a certain something. I don't think my fork would look too bad in chrome, even though the frame will be dark green. I just wasn't sure how well paint would have adhered over the shiny chrome, although Dawes obviously managed it.
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Another pic for your consideration.

The frame's now mine and in the shop for a headset fitting, but this was how the previous owner had it.

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Many bikes (colnago super, higher end Peugeots come to mind) came with all chrome forks on painted frames, so it is not unusual to see.
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Originally Posted by cybertect View Post
Another pic for your consideration.

The frame's now mine and in the shop for a headset fitting, but this was how the previous owner had it.

Thanks for that. I now see how well a chrome fork can look with a contrasting frame, and that's how I'll proceed. That bike is to die for. Do I see Mavic rims and a GB stem, and can that possibly be a Wright's saddle?
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I've been meaning to ask this very question as I recently replaced the fork on my Schwinn S/T. It's 1/4" or less different and I wasn't concerned till I stiid it up next to an old Varsity that I was getting ready to flip;

The perspective exaggerates the difference but It got me wondering. I'm gonna try the origional fork (it's got really ugly paint and chrome) one of these days and report back.
I really like a chrome fork. Sometimes it looks like a generic replacement but sometimes it looks really good.
On the S/T I liked the way the lugless design complimented the fillet brazed frame (It could be a little thicker to compliment the Schwinn's thicker tubes);

I've got blackwalls and little alloy shorty fenders on this bike now and it looks even better. Pictures someday, I promise.
On some really old Raleighs a chrome fork was stock, I like how it accentuates the rake on this one;
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Thanks for the help everyone, I'll be on the lookout for a 27" chrome fork now

Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
Yes. I posted the wrong link. Here is the Tange fork link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-TANGE-5B...d=p3286.c0.m14
I am watching this on ebay now. Ideally this is what I'd like. How much do these Tange chrome forks go for? If I don't win or it goes for too much I'll probably end up getting the one from Niagara. The price makes me question its quality though. Can anyone attest to this?
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Depending on condition, Tange cro-mo forks seem to sell for $50-$100 on eBay. But, that one was in an auction that ended on Aug 2nd with no bids. So who knows how high it will go?

The chrome fork on my Viscount posted above is the one from Niagara. I haven't put many miles on it yet so I can't give an informed opinion. But it looks good so far.
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The Niagra fork has eyelets (4) and the Tange fork has none. Keep that in mind if you think you'll want to add fenders.
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop View Post
The Niagra fork has eyelets (4) and the Tange fork has none. Keep that in mind if you think you'll want to add fenders.
I'm not planning to use fenders ever on this ride, so the Tange fork is ideal. The 2 sets of eyelets on the Niagara fork is what really turns me off about it to honest.
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What turns me off about the Niagra Sunlite fork is that it's hi-ten steel. I need a 27" fork badly, but I can't bring myself to put a hi-ten fork on a Reynolds 531 frame.

From the wording in the ad, I'm under the impression that the seller has more than one tange fork.
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Eyelets? My chrome fork has a threaded boss for a lamp bracket. Anybody remember those front lamps with a double cell in them? That used to be specified in law here. The rear lamp could have a single one-and-a-half volt cell, then they made it compulsory for that to be three volts too. Fine for non-compliance on summary conviction, thirty shillings. Those were the days.
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Originally Posted by Proofide View Post
Do I see Mavic rims and a GB stem, and can that possibly be a Wright's saddle?
The stem's a Nitto Technomic. Dunno about the saddle. The rims are Mavic CXP-33s.

I'm going with an 80s ITM stem and a black Brooks B17. Not quite sure what rims it will end up with: MA2s or Module E possibly. I've a set of cheap silver Weinmanns on KK hubs that are going on it till I find something suitable.

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Anybody remember those front lamps with a double cell in them? That used to be specified in law here.
Chunky Ever Ready items that seemed to be about the only lamp you could buy in the UK in the 1970s? I went through a few - the older tin plate models (black and then silver painted) and then the plastic-bodied one which had a much better reflector.

I swear I lost a couple of the later-design rear lamps (the square one that came apart vertically) as the catch wasn't up to the job of holding two Ever Ready SP2 batteries in check when you went over a pot-hole. The whole top half plus batteries came flying out and into the path of a following vehicle's wheels.
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1940 CCM coaster with a NOS chrome reproduction fork... the bike ran 28's originally and now runs 27's and alloy wheels.

Unlike the stock fork, this one was drilled for a brake and even with 27 inch wheels I needed a very long reach caliper. The stock forks were also painted and never chromed but I am liking this look.

Canadian 28's were 700c and the bike was never designed for brakes and the fork clearance allows for a very high volume tyre and fenders.

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PS - I have one of those double cell lights... it came on my 1954 Raleigh sports road bike.
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