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'61 Paramount gets 151 Records (Thanks Lee!)

Old 08-10-09, 04:43 PM
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'61 Paramount gets 151 Records (Thanks Lee!)

I owe Cranky Old Road big time for this one. The '61 Paramount is now fitted with a period, early Campagnolo Record 151bcd right arm:









Chain is a bit short, but I couldn't locate the extra links for this particular chain. For that matter, the half-step setup requires that I put a freewheel with two-tooth increments on it - which brings up another problem: The Gran Sport can only handle 5 of the 6 cogs on those Phil hubs. I have a pair of Record HF's (front is the original '60-dated hub) with 120mm spacing ready, but no rims.

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Old 08-10-09, 05:01 PM
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Nice!
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Blumels?

Awesome setup, dude. I love those old browns and coppers!
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That crank looks like it's found its way home at last.
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Need a 55 tooth 151 BCD. It should help you really scoot along with a Miami tail wind!
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
Need a 55 tooth 151 BCD. It should help you really scoot along with a Miami tail wind!
Ah, I have a 54 if you need...
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I'm running 51/53 - what it came with. If anything, I'd be looking for something smaller

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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
I'm running 51/53 - what it came with. If anything, I'd be looking for something smaller

-Kurt

Ouch! They turn up on ebay now and then... close to 100. for a 44, the smallest.
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it came from the factory with a 2 tooth difference for the chainrings? I can't see the point of that!
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Originally Posted by divineAndbright View Post
it came from the factory with a 2 tooth difference for the chainrings? I can't see the point of that!
The original Stronglight Competition (steel) was 49/51, I believe (EDIT: 49/52). Effectively gave you corncob gearing with a block with two cog jumps or so (for instance, 14-16-18-20-22).

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Originally Posted by jebensch View Post
Blumels?

Awesome setup, dude. I love those old browns and coppers!
Bluemels Populars. I love them on this machine. They just "fit."

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very sharp looking bike.
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Almost forgot to add about those fenders - they were an option back in the day (along with the Record crankset and seatpost of which I spec'ed on my own '61):

From Bob Hufford's site:

https://www.geocities.com/sldbdealer/1961/61dlct02.html

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That crank looks like it's found its way home at last.
Indeed it has - a nice long-term home on that Paramount. It ain't going nowhere

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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
I'm running 51/53 - what it came with. If anything, I'd be looking for something smaller

-Kurt
So Kurt, you know the way around this challenge without changing the chainrings?

Several options:

1. Loose weight and build stronger legs! Easy said, especially by me.

2. Stop riding it and simply admire the acquisition of the period correct bit.

3. Let me build you a custom geared Suntour Winner freewheel. How about an 18-20-22-24-26?

Of course you might need to slap a Gran Tourisimo on there.
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very nice. Sorry your neighbor is a cop though... that wouldnt work out well for me with my ahh, hobbies.
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She's a beauty Kurt. You must be one proud papa!
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very nice. Sorry your neighbor is a cop though... that wouldnt work out well for me with my ahh, hobbies.
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Originally Posted by divineAndbright View Post
it came from the factory with a 2 tooth difference for the chainrings? I can't see the point of that!

I believe that was the old half-step gearing, quite common on 50s and 60s bikes. I guess sizes were determined by the stength of the rider... 47/50 I see a lot.

Was the 151 crank originally an option?
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"The Schwinn Paramount: The only thing Schwinn ever got right."

Oh come on, the Stingrays were pretty hot, and the Phantoms. Sadly, I missed them both age wise...
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
Several options:

1. Loose weight and build stronger legs! Easy said, especially by me.

2. Stop riding it and simply admire the acquisition of the period correct bit.

3. Let me build you a custom geared Suntour Winner freewheel. How about an 18-20-22-24-26?

Of course you might need to slap a Gran Turisimo on there.
1. Got a trainer.

2. Never. I have one chrome Paramount for that purpose (and a second chrome Paramount just a sold Trek 610 away from being mine).

3. I've got the freewheel bodies, just sell me some polished rims

4.


Originally Posted by YungBurke View Post
very nice. Sorry your neighbor is a cop though... that wouldnt work out well for me with my ahh, hobbies.
Works for mine - those two 1975 Raleigh Twenties in the "Visitors" thread are hers, along with a '73 DL-1. My ladies' 1951 Raleigh Sports "C" Tourist is also on long-term loan to her.


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She's a beauty Kurt. You must be one proud papa!
A proud papa of this baby since 2006, and hopefully many more years.


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Was the 151 crank originally an option?
Indeed, right along with the Campagnolo seatpost and the Bluemels fenders (though I'm not certain whether the original "optional" spec. would have been Bluemels Populars - note the '61 Paramount ad above is a bit vague on this point).


Originally Posted by dbakl View Post
Oh come on, the Stingrays were pretty hot, and the Phantoms. Sadly, I missed them both age wise...
If they were 531...

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I really should put the 151bcd track cranks back on the track Paramount, I finally got a 49t chainring to replace the 57t (!!!) that it came with...
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