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Old 09-19-09, 04:31 PM
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Do higher end Nishiki's ride as nice as my lower end one

I had finished my Nishiki Marina 12 to ride for the winter on the trainer and periodically with the kids and then decided it might be nice to set it up for the times I have meetings in town. So, on went a rear rack (a little heavier one) and some panniers. Yesterday I loaded up with a change of clothes and shoes. I rode a circuitous 19 mile route to get into town.

I have to say I was very surprised with the comfort of the ride, even with the added weight, and how quick the bike felt. I finished the ride in an hour and decided that bike is going to hit the road more often after a newer, narrower chain goes on.
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yours is not a lower end one
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Smart set-up. I can tell this is a well-loved bike. I have one Nishiki myself but the Marina 12 is unknown to me.
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Dang! That can't be the same bike...Nice!
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yours is not a lower end one
The Marina 12 wa an early 1980s, upper, entry level model. This one has been heavily upgraded. The entry level frame is readily apparent via the brazed-on cable stops under the top tube and the down tube shifter postition, indicating they have been moved from the stem. While adding some weight, the entry level frame would give a more stable and comfortable ride due to slightly relaxed angles and a longer wheelbase.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
The Marina 12 wa an early 1980s, upper, entry level model. This one has been heavily upgraded. The entry level frame is readily apparent via the brazed-on cable stops under the top tube and the down tube shifter postition, indicating they have been moved from the stem. While adding some weight, the entry level frame would give a more stable and comfortable ride due to slightly relaxed angles and a longer wheelbase.
Thanks T-Mar. The interesting thing is I had to get clamp on DT shifters for this one due to the lack of brazed on cable stops. I suppose at some point it could have been drewed, but not by Kpug

And, yes, it's been put together with a large mix of parts.
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First, your Marina is in excellent condition with some nice upgrades. I especially like the addition of aero levers because they look good and add a distinct measure of safety with superior braking compared to the original levers.
I have several Nishiki road bikes including a 81 Marina and a 86 Prestige (Tange 2 frame). I just completed a 50 mile ride on the Prestige and I use it on my Thursday night club rides. It compares favorably to my 06 Giant OCR-C full carbon ride. I'm not fond of my Marina and probably won't keep it. I've had three early 80s Nishiki Hi-ten framed bikes and find the Nishiki Chromoly bikes I have, ride distinctly better. BUT, as T-Mar pointed out, each rider has their own objectives and different riding positions. The Marina may fit your riding style just fine. Either way, if you're happy with it, that's great, but if a nicer model comes along, give it a try.
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Given the OP's apparent preferences, the more upscale models he might prefer would likely be grand touring models, such as Cresta or Seral
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All I know about Nishiki is that my 1971 Semi-Pro/Competition did not have the low weight and responsive ride quality one would normally expect from a double butted CrMo frame, and that Japanese bikes improved markedly through the 1970s. I'll be your Marina is a great ride.
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